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- unknown0
what's for lunch corin?
just trying to lighten the mood of the post. :-)
bB
- corin0
I figure that design and advertising is something that invites and should endorse ripping though, for the greater good, shit if you don't want anyone to rip your work you shouldn't put it into the public sphere in the first place. And personally i don't think that anyone ripping off TDR gians that much from doing so, and I don't think it does any harm to TDR so whats the problem?
- corin0
I'm buying a new computer next week so I might have to have ciggarettes for lunch... again... that or hamCheese&Tomato toasted sandwiches
- reluct0
I don't say there's something wrong with copying. I just prefer designers who try to do it as original as possible,
I prefer Coca Cola over pepsi. You know that sort of thing.
It's just my taste. Not a statement :)
- unknown0
Isn't more satisfying though to sit down, by yourself, and really flush out some ideas for a project. Just you and a pencil and pad of paper.
It is so easy to go online and find something that influences you and then copy it.
A professor of mine told me this once and I still agree:
"Always look at awards annuals. To see what the best of the best are doing. Just don't look at them too long."
bB
- reluct0
I agree. I always say that I check the works of others to know what I don't want to do :) Not that I never opted for the easy way out and used some trends like the distressed look.
- corin0
You've pointed out just what my problem is with this whole idea bucky...
Yes it is more satisfying to come up with your own original(i use the term loosely) ideas, but are you designing for your own satisfaction or for the satisfaction of those who you are communicating too. I feel that the people who the work is for take a back seat to the desires of the designer who is producing that work, and i don't think thats fair. Its like if a school teacher invented his/her own language and taught it to kids, yes those kids migh have the benefit of said teacher's brilliant linguistics but they wouldn't be able to communicate with everyone else and would be at a disadvantge... shit I'm coming up with the stupidist ways of explaining myself today :)
- reluct0
Corin. You can be original and still comunicate. As long as you keep a very important rule in mind. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID! hahah.
Take Virgin for example. Instead of copying his competitors Branson found new ways of doing business. With great succes as we all know.
If you can't be best of catagory you'll have to start your own catagory :)
Jean Marie Dru at TBWA France wrote a great book about originality called disruption. Here's a link: http://www.disruption.com/
- fllux0
TDR were and still are truely trend setters, never "trendy"
Even styles that are as prominent as Mike Young's is still mainly derrivitive of TDR.
examples:
http://www.murrayandvern.com/v2/…
http://www.murrayandvern.com/v2/…
http://www.murrayandvern.com/v2/…
TDR did this over 5 years ago.
- unknown0
what's wrong with ham/cheese/tomato toasted sandwiches? nothing!
- corin0
Ham-Cheese-Tomato... mmmm,
was very tasty
- sauerbraten0
there's tons of parallels between alot of design styles today from pioneers in art like Robert Rauschenberg, to Bauhaus posters (Herbert Bayer) to this, from the NTB, 1979:
- corin0
That book looks very interesting reluct, and the first page of its second window i think communicates what I'm trying to say (much better than the silly examples i keep posting)... -
"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result"
, i imagine this works in the reverse too, what I'm trying to point out is that there is an advantage of doing the same thing over and over again in the interest of achieveing the same result.
- ********0
KSvsMPvsBLDvsWRP.
soon.
- ********0
and corin,
what delightful commentary.
- corin0
you're welcome mp... only now I'm thinking that since this thing has been going on for so long, some people might have clicked on my site link, and i think my site sucks at the moment... :(
- ********0
I don't think your site sucks at all, very inspiring to tell you the truth. I was observing your custom header fonts, and reminiscing of "art_school".
keep going!