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- skeptical
what you think?
are they great designers with strong philosophy background or just a copy masters?
- unknown0
i think their design borders on trendy. but i will say that they are good at what is so hard to be:
a survivalist.
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- ********0
they are fossiles compared to most others in this industry right now!
so:
really experienced.
& survivalists indeed!much respect their way..
- sauerbraten0
i don't care much when really really good studios get blasted for being 'trendy' when most of them in fact started alot of these trends. they are amazing.
little like people are bashing M.Young, Designgraphik changed the way alot of people percieve online design, just too bad people don't recognize these innovators.
i love TDR's Autechre LP covers..
- unknown0
the fact that your screen name is skeptical and that you're from "Bosnia" is grounds for me to ask, why ask about TDR?
just curious,
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- unknown0
not bashing sauer. i just base my ideas of the best of the bunch design studios on the ones I see time and time again in Communication Arts, Graphis and the likes.
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- ok_static0
love this one...
http://www.warprecords.com/ograp…i like them in the past, seems they loses their abilities to do great stuff nowadays, i hate to say this but maybe it's because MCP had left......
- reluct0
Agree with Sauerbraten. It's silly to bash the trendsetters for lack of originality. Bash the copycats if you feel like ranting.
Nothing but love for tdr. I especially like their work for Funkstorung and Towa Tei.
- unknown0
trendsetting? where? on the web?
again. not bashing. it just strikes me funny how "trendsetting" is so loosely thrown around these days.
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- corin0
I still think PWEI branding is the best work... i wish i could get another one of those SAMPLE IT LOOP FUCK IT AND EAT IT tshirts again, i stole one off my sister years ago and lost it at a music festival... so sad. Did you know that PWEI sold more t-shirts than records? I think that alone proves that TDR are quite good at what they do.
- unknown0
just to name a few. these are the studios that keep doing it year in and year out. again. and again. and again.
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- lifeinsodium0
what is this TDR you talk about? give me a link or links will ya!
- reluct0
Buckyballz. Web and print, but especially print. Please don't tell me you didn't notice a recent trend involving 45 degrees arrows.
I'm not using the word trendsetter loosely. If you start the damn trend your the trendsetter right?
TDR is better off without a website I think. It's a candyshop for newbies and copiers.
- lifeinsodium0
imitation is the highest form of flattery or some crap like that.
- corin0
This trend thing shits me too... creativity is something that happens as a result of exposure to other ppl's creativity... its a collaborative process that should involve all of humanity. No person is an island and there is nothing wrong with being influenced by something good, it contributes to culture as a whole. I say we need more trends and more 'ripping' and more shit that is like TDR. TDR has such a wonderful attitude towards honest(ish) marketting that should be replicated throughout our industry. Bah that line of argument always gets confused along the way and i end up sounding like an idiot.. apologies
- unknown0
nicely put corin. btw. what time is it in Australia?
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- skeptical0
well, their concept is based on specific philosophy. but, they dont have any reaction on, for example, sept 11 or iraq. looks like they dont want to be involved in global anti war trend.
and why am i skeptical - im just not sure.
and why am i from bosnia - shit happens.
- reluct0
The only good thing about copying is, that it forces the ones who started to start all over again and think of something new.
Call me a romantic, but I like originals. I know it's not possible to be 100% unique. But you can at least take the effort to change things around so they don't look like a rip.
- corin0
You're right reluct, i guess what I'm trying to say is that re-inventing the wheel is a poor use of time and energy, the 'i am originial' attitude is the kind of thing that can do more harm then good when it is an ego-based thing. Browser compatablity is such an issue, development would be so much easier and faster if browser developers didn't tack shit on that wasn't WC3 compliant just so their browser seemed better... hmmm thats not such a good example but i think you get what i mean... and those wingdings arrows are really good at communicating directions...
oh and bucky - its about 11.30am in brisbane
- reluct0
I get your point :) There's nothing wrong with standardisation. And yes arrows are very useful. Used them quite often. But when you use them exactly the same way tdr does it's just ripping their work.