japanese posters
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- paulrand
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isn't that a bit odd, calling them "jap" posters, or is this some new generally accepted usage I'm not aware of?
- Prime760
WWII flashbacks running through my mind.
- Prime760
I would have liked japosters
- unknown0
I spoke on this topic in the thread moshi moshi and was told I was being sensitive, throwing the "R" word around, and in general I shouldn't feel offended. I say screw them and thier backwards thinking, probably never had a problem in this area but want to give a "logical and rational" explanation to why your're overreating. Fuck em. You can't real talk it if you've never lived it.
- CAJTBr0
rationally it's no different to eg 'brit posters', but you're right, it does have negative connotations.
man, i've become really unsure of my spelling lately.
- rise0
AZN PRIDE BABY
TRIADZ IN THE HIZZOUE JIGGAZ
- CAJTBr0
something funny i've noticed. asian means different things in the US and europe.
in the US people use
asian = chinese, japanese, etc.
indian = indian, pakistani, etc.in the EU
asian = indian, pakistani, etc.
oriental = chinese, japanese, etc.check out the bbc's 'asian radio network' not a word of mandarin.
- monokrom0
THOSE AREN'T ABBREVIATIONS - THEY'RE LITTLE DAGGERS OF RACISM STABBING MY EYES!!!!!
Some other geographical abbreviations that should also offend you :
* Cali : California
* Viet : Vietnamese
* Penn : (as in U. Penn, Penn State) Pennsylvania
* Pole : Polish
* Scot : ScottishIf latching onto innocuous geographical abbreviations as excuses to cry, throw a fit, stamp your feet and accuse some poor soul of racism is your game, then you'll have plenty to cry about for the rest of your life since, well, lots of people use geographical abbreviations and verbal shorthand in their informal written and common speech communication.
- rise0
LOOK TODD THEY ARE SMOKING POLE.
- CAJTBr0
hey monokrom, did anyone say anything about racism or even being offended?
maybe you should stop stamping your feet and accusing people of things.
the guy was just asking whether people thought a word was acceptable or not.
- zeno0
jap is a racist term; there's no debate about the use of the word, or its negative racial connotations. people that hide behind statements such as: "you're overreacting," say that precisely because they are 'racially insensitive'
it's inappropriate to use terms like this, especially in an enlightened design community like newstoday.
no debate here guys.
- rise0
"especially in an enlightened design community like newstoday."
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OH boy, your killing me, 200% comedy central.
- Ctrl_Z0
zero he was refering to the 'moshi moshi' post. People all pulling the 'R' word out of their ass these days. but I will have to school you on racist behavior. turn your textbooks to page 53 and review the graphic please. http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/…
- Ctrl_Z0
sorry bud I fucked up your name. zeno. :(
no disrespect intended.
- AD0
Can you please use the full word racism - the whole 'r' thing offends me.
Reminds me of an awful experience I had with pirates as a youth.
thx (or rather - thank you - in case 'thx' is somehow offensive)
- CyBrainX0
I thought it sounded a little odd, but had the feeling it wasn't written to offend.
Scot is a grammatically correct term for a person from Scotland.
- paulrand0
well, I didn't say racist, i said "a bit odd", and given the use of the word in earlier contexts (i.e. my wife's grandparents, aunts and uncles in camps in the USA in WWII), it seems to have more baggage attached to it than a geographical abbreviation.
- TransFatty0
maybe -
except alvin....''jap posters
alvin, Phunkstudio
(jan 25 03)''..... is asian
and lives in singapore
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nice guy actually
- monokrom0
well, I didn't say racist, i said "a bit odd", and given the use of the word in earlier contexts (i.e. my wife's grandparents, aunts and uncles in camps in the USA in WWII), it seems to have more baggage attached to it than a geographical abbreviation.
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The internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII was a war crime on the part of the US govt and a horrible chapter in American history. Many have tried to justify the internment on various grounds, but I don't think that it's possible to explain it away.
That being said, your raising that issue at this point in the discussion is idiotic.
For one, it confirms the obvious - namely that "a bit odd" was simply a weasely way of broaching the "racism" issue. Setting the bait for trolls to jump in and decry the racist overtones of the abbreviation "Jap". If you want to accuse someone of racism, you should have either the sense to contact them privately (i.e. email Phunkstudio and feel them out before posting in a public forum) or the cajones to make an accusation outright instead of skirting the issue.
Secondly, recognize that not everyone on this board is American like you (or me). Phunkstudio are, if I remember correctly, based in Singapore. Even if "Jap" was once used as a taboo word / racist epithet for Japanese decades ago in the United States (it may have been, but neither you nor I were alive at the time and we'd have very few words left in the English language if we discarded every word that was ever used in a negative way at some point in history), the set of racist words for Japanese people used by residents of Singapore c. 1940's *may* have been different than those used in the United States at the same time.
FYI, several non-self-hating Japanese-American acquaintances of mine also use the abbreviation "Jap" to refer to Japanese or Japanese-influenced items from time to time, but, rest assured, I will be sure to inform them that a caucasian poster on a design-related msgboard finds the term offensive.
- paulrand0
ahem (PRand clears throat in embarassment at tempest in teapot and quietly backs out of room)
- paulrand0
ps- thanks for letting me know what I really meant.