Abortion
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- monokrom0
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I'm an agnostic who believes in evolution (unil someone proves that it's less plausible than some other theory).I am anti-abortion, but pro condom, diaphragm, birth control pill, and common sense.
From the moment of conception, barring some unforseen accident, a fertilized egg will develop into a human being like any of us. While it draws sustenance from the mother, to say that it's "part of her body" is idiotic. It's genetically distinct. In addition to supplying the baby with oxygen and nutrients, the placenta protects the baby from the mother's immune system .. which might otherwie attack the baby because it's a distinct and separate living thing residing within the mother's womb.
We all make mistakes in life. I don't think that people, however foolishly and thoughtlessly they've behaved, who have conceived a child through unprotected sex should be stoned to death - but why compound their mistake by allowing them to murder a child?
It's barbaric. Abortion is one of those brutal, primitive practices that degrades us as a society.
Don't want the baby? Put it up for adoption. Worried that the social /child services bureaucracy is broken (a common justification for infanticide) ? Lobby the govt and vote for politicians who will improve the system.
Abortion is murder. If you believe otherwise, you're kidding youself - just as socities of the past were able to cobble together various cockeyed justifications for slavery (ie the scientists of those days 'proved' that Africans were inferior to Europeans and that slavery was somehow'helping' them ... or, worse, the 'natural' state of things).
- fits0
Yeah.. i prefer the coat hanger method.
- slinky0
Please everyone, wipe your feet after you leave this thread... don't track this poo all over NT®.
Of all inappropriate threads on NT®.. whoever started it needs to be flogged, not flagged.. but flogged.
I do care about this issue, but this should be discussed in other forums...
While i am here .. might as well give a blurb... Life is at conception-wrong to kill-
- motivdesign0
Frow: what leads you to believe I haven't done research?
Arguing evolution with a creationist is about the most pointless thing I can think of to do with my limited amount of time on this earth.
Creationism is so closely tied to religion that the same habits are adopted by proponents of both: i.e. accepting certain things to be true based on faith alone.
You can't debate something with someone who has a different definition of "proof" and "fact" than you do. It's a fool's errand.
- Mal0
The question is.......
Could you pour piss from a boot with the instructions written on the heel?
- monokrom0
I prefer the condom/diaphragm/birth control pills method.
Why commit infanticide when it's not necessary?
Because people are too stupid or too irresponsible to exericse the least bit of self control or planning?
Sure - if everyone used contraception, there would still be a statistical handfull of unwanted pregnancies ... but so so so few compared to what we're seeing now.
- outypants0
abortion is murder
- Mal0
no it's not.
- exador0
hahha..
guess its all in the timing with the bush family eh?
(nicked from Dennis Miller)
- frow0
motiv: never insinuated that you haven't done your research. Not once. Obviously you have done some degree of research. I'm not sure why you said that.
I'm also not sure why you would declare that we have differing opinions of "proof" and "fact".
However, I agree that such a discussion would be fruitless, especially in this context.
- phlojonaut0
motivdesign
"The second law of thermodynamics only applies to isolated systems, meaning systems that don't partake in any exchange of mass or energy with their surroundings. "
Give me ONE example of such system... a system that is isolated and does not partake in any exchange of mass or energy with their surroundings... ?
- monokrom0
Bluejam - are you going to post a political cartoon of the PETA activist who thinks that raising minks for their fur is just HORRIBLE and BRUTAL but votes pro-choice in every election because she believes that it's every woman's right to have their babies cut into little pieces and sucked out of their wombs?
Hypocrisy is not confined to right wingers.
I am agnostic, liberal/progressive politically, believe in evolution, and am anti-abortion.
- Mal0
Abortions for those who want it, small American flags for those who don't.
The Simpsons.
- slinky0
anyone who posts after me is a moron for continuing this thread.
- Mal0
shite!
- slinky0
Mal you are 1st moron
(I am exempt from moronhood because I started it)
- Mal0
are you calling me a moron? Slinky, I hope to fuck not.
- slinky0
nope.. you set yourself up for that title had you read the previous post.
(I just trying to end this thread)
