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    Tesla and EVs are cool but the best thing you can do for the environment is not drive a car.

    Assuming you must drive, the second best thing you can do?

    Don’t buy a new car. Take care of your current car and drive it until you die.

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    • Use public transport where possible.Chimp
    • adult male seeking cargo bikeimbecile
    • Are Tesla's EVs really that cool? Tesla's EVs are shaped like dung beetle with wheels.utopian
    • Utopian be like http://2.bp.blogspot…nb
    • Just don’t buy a new car. Even a Tesla takes a VERY long time to offset the environmental damage from manufacturing and shipping itnb
    • Take the No.11 bus people. That's code for your legs.shapesalad
    • Is everyone charging their ev’s with solar or hydroelectric?bezoar
    • Many, many, many are. Again, the point is: don’t buy anythingnb
    • look up the damage that gas production alone does and see if you still want to keep the old gasmobilemekk
    • Just don’t buy anything evernb
    • It’s the best thing you can donb
    • an aging car does more damage than you think.sted
    • utopian is bang on the money. and the pollution caused by lithium mining is appallinghans_glib
    • Old cars are horrible for the environment.formed
    • If well maintained, an old car fine. Clean your air filter, inflate your tires, change your spark plugs, use a thinner synthetic oil. Drive 10% under the limit.monNom
    • Cars 20 years ago were getting similar mileage to todays vehicles, and they don't require any additional energy to manufacture.monNom
    • EVs on the other hand are extremely energy intensive to manufacture (which is why they cost more). and their useful life is probably less due to battery wear.monNom
    • Not to mention that the additional electricity generation for every additional EV is probably coming from gas-fired powerplants.monNom
    • Which might be more efficient than an ICE engine, but when you factor in line losses, conversion losses (step down and AC to DC), and heat lost during chargingmonNom
    • ...It might not be much better than a hybrid.monNom
    • The best thing we can do to reduce our footprint is to make the things we already have last as long as possible. We save all the mining, transport, processing.monNom
    • @monNom there are 182 countries in the world where you're going to find cars.
      1st you have to fix the logistics for spare parts, than you have to get people to      sted
    • care about this on a level what makes sure they everybody spends money! and time on clean your the filter, inflate tires, change spark plugs, etc.sted
    • (still in 182 countries) right after this you can start teaching people how to "drive sustainably". These things require a lot of painful tools and the collabsted
    • 182 countries.sted
    • ya but if you like motorsports, you end up with 4 cars like me...BabySnakes
    • Agreed. The above assumes a world where spare-parts are available. That's a whole other issue. Planned obsolescence is a "fuck you" to both earth and its peoplemonNom
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