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Pro-vaxxer dies from vaccine complications:
- *in May.
"Pro-vaxxer?" Where did you get that from? That's not at all been part of any narrative I've heard in relation to her passing,Nairn - And it works both waysdrgs
- "works for BBC" = pretty much given that she's pro-vaxxer.pr2
- Right, so you totally made that up then.
Good to know.Nairn - spend some time actively looking at the world, and you will develop a skill of educated guesses yourself.pr2
- lolFax_Benson
- he educated made it up, which is different.Fax_Benson
- I know enough Eastern European blokes to know that you're very good at talking absolute bollocks with an amusing amount of arrogant certainty.Nairn
- just read the fucking article man.pr2
- It was known back in May that she'd died from AZ complications. It was fairly big news here in the UK. Affects not your loose handle on Pravda though, comradeNairn
- so well known that the news sources posts the article only now? maybe you should start selling your magic-ball predictions to news stations?pr2
- so, you found one person who had a vaccine complication ... but there are literally many millions who died from COVID ... you stupid afmonospaced
- Here, fool - 28th May.
https://www.dailymai…Nairn - Ther have been a few people who've died from AZ vaccine. A % of people have complications with most vaccines. It's nothing peculiar to CovidVaxNairn
- ..unless, of course, you have some pointless personal agenda and want to spin things that way.Nairn
- sure, and it's so extremely rare that it couldn't be considered a serious riskmonospaced
- No, but it was a handy political football for our friends in Europe to try and score some points against the UK in regards to vax roll-out. Well done, them.Nairn
- tell it that it's not a risk to one of the 15k people who died in Europe from vaccines, or the thousands that died in US. yeah, not "serious risk" at all.pr2
- Do you have a non-skewed source for that 15k figure?Nairn
- https://www.politifa…Nairn
- I'm seeing some high numbers, but then teh above article suggest that the granularity of mortality recording isn't accurate enough to make the deductive leap ..Nairn
- ..that people like you, with an eye to sustaining a narrative, are so keen to make.Nairn
- there are not thousands of people dying from covid vaccines, pr2monospaced
- Even if there were, there'd be fewer dying from Vax-related clotting than Covid-related - clotting ... (apos for DM link)Nairn
- https://www.dailymai…Nairn
- a.) asking for non-biased source of info, don't bring up a biased (leaning Left) source of info. that just creates a surreal world of blind leading blind.pr2
- b.) CDC's source has a figure of covid vaccine-related deaths at over 4k. yeah, i know that all pro-vaxxers will latch onto "related" part...pr2
- ...but the truth is that if not for the vaccine, those people most likely would be alive.pr2
- Left leaning is more in line with what science says, and evidence shows.monospaced
- c.) the point is that death happen when you get covid AND when you get vaccine, so we should stop the debate and move on to what those deaths really mean.pr2
- I didn't imply a preference for any 'left-leaning' narrative. I simply wanted facts. Interesting that that's your immediate tangent though.Nairn
- I saw high numbers when I searched earlier. Much larger than I expected - but more like 5k across EU, rather than 15k, and even then not necessarily certifiableNairn
- c) Yes, you're entirely right. And when you run the numbers, the stats and all that palava, vaccines and basic measures mitigate overall deaths.Nairn
- Of course there will be deaths directly attributable to vaccine usage. But vastly overall, the statistical sacrifice is better than the opposite [in]actionNairn
- We knew early on that AZ had an adverse effect on young-ish women. Ok, shit situation, but then you account for that. It's an evolving process.Nairn
- Your stance is akin to dumb creationists screaming INVALID! at all scientific 'theories' because Science isn't able to account for every instance..Nairn
- ..in advance.Nairn
- Also, you clearly bullshit. So. Yeah.Nairn
- you jump to valid/invalid conclusions too quickly. you need to account for context. In NYC where i'm living 75% had the virus so the push for vaccination...pr2
- ...here is nonsensical because a.) most are already well protected and b.) vaccination when you already had the virus increases your risk of complications.pr2
- i try not to jump to any conclusions - rather, read up as much as i can, and then when engaging with other people, not just lie to substantiate my claims.Nairn
- ..'cos, see - i don't have any claims. I'm as equally curious about every abstraction of this situation, paranoid, sane, statistical, mundane or otherwise.Nairn
- give me actual facts and change my understanding.Nairn
- 75% did not get the virus. You’re still working from this assumption.monospaced
- Many thousands in nyc died of covid. Still are. The vaccine didn’t kill us, it only saved people. Still does.monospaced
- dude, remember when months ago i asked for a wager about it? guess what? the numbers of deaths in nyc barely increased since then.;pr2
- *in May.