Is Flash dead?

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  • Nairn16

    MONOSPACE: Flip dots with feelings, a JavaScript demo in 1021 bytes, winner of the 1024 bytes demo competition at Assembly 2020.

    http://www.p01.org/MONOSPACE/

    Due to a bug in Firefox, it's best viewed in a Chromium or Webkit-based Browser (boo. mozilla!)

    1021 bytes. Wow.

    • that's acefadein11
    • insanemicrokorg
    • damnmoldero
    • Math be crazy.ideaist
    • Where's Mono?
      Did he create this?
      CyBrainX
    • http://www.p01.org/M…imbecile
    • ^
      don't click that link if you're on Firefox, it could require you to restart
      Nairn
    • (the browser at least, not your OS)Nairn
    • Monos arguing with someone somewheremoldero
    • Still not as good as Flash. But quite fun.PhanLo
    • It's an aside to Flash and shows what can be done 'on the metal' (lol) in JS. But given the entire package less than a 1kb in size, it's 'better' than Flash.Nairn
    • Steve Jobs was correct in rejecting Flash for something better; lightweight and powerful.ideaist
    • ...Only took 10 years.ideaist
    • Yeah, the shame is when Flash imploded, so did the editing tools that eventually output to JS/etc and so the whole culture dissolved.Nairn
    • I say this lots - but I'm still perplexed why there's not a whole ecoystem of Flash replacemnt tools enabling animation and complexity from a timeline.Nairn
    • Still can't actually draw animations and generate systems quickly in any other program.
      I did download Touch Designer the other day though.
      PhanLo
    • Yeah, that's exactly the problem. I keep meaning to check out GreenSock - I *think* it has a timeline editor?Nairn
    • These days performance will always be better direct-in browser, compared to a Flash-like layer. As you say though, there're no fucking tools to do itNairn
    • Flash was great for its time but fundamentally antithetical to the way The Web Should Work, and therefore everything going forward.Nairn
    • It's been a full decade and there isn't anything quite like Flash as a replacement. I think it's fair to say Jobs was wrong.CyBrainX
    • been getting Flash-backs doing ES6 Javascript... feels like AS3 open source Flash days but i'd take the Flash IDE any day over the HTML5 DOM, SVG and CSSkingsteven
    • this demo is incredible. female voice on my browser - gonna have to look in to that web speech APIkingsteven
    • You can do a lot (if you're patient) w/HTML5 / JS / SVG... thing is nobody is 'asking' for it these days. Everyone wants to edit their own site / have a blog.PonyBoy
    • Nairn... GS will blow your mind but you have to have a little patience w/it (mainly cuz there's so much you can do w/it now) but it is simple to grasp if...PonyBoy
    • ... you understand basic JS syntax (basic function calls w/ parameters, variables etc).PonyBoy
    • GS is a godsend for HTML5 banners... so much $$ and time saved / made thanks to Greensock... I've yet to find anything that compares.PonyBoy
    • Am I missing something? Adobe Animate is the evolution of the Flash app no? i.e. it does the same but exports as HTML5/CSS3/JS. I haven't used as like someonefadein11
    • said above no one asks for it anymore (unless banner ads which have better solutions). The interface is pretty much the same. I did a few tests a while back andfadein11
    • seemed good but not had to get stuck into Flash type stuff for years. Has anyone used it much here?fadein11
    • Simple animations are easily done with CSS3, so no need. But I think Animate caters for stuff like the example here more.fadein11
    • but not under 1024 bytes obviously :)fadein11

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