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    I have this contract that turned into a full-time gig about 6 months ago. The original contract didn't really change (no change in pay)... the only change is I have to be in-house a few days a week.

    For years I've had this contract and pay. I'd work from home / on the road... whatever was necessary to get things done. Times are changing and the company is growing. They want someone in-house a few days.

    About 3 months ago I alerted my 'old boss' (the person who originated the contract w/me before it was a 'job') and 'new boss' (a new partner) that I'd be heading out of town for two weeks. My 'old boss' was the only one to respond w/the standard 'as long as this, this and this are handled and you're available... no prob'.

    Everyone in the office knew I was leaving... they even cracked jokes about me being gone 2 weeks etc (in front of the old and new boss). Old boss even had some shit to talk etc (point being: everyone knew I was heading out of town).

    1st day out of town I get a call from the new boss: "Are you coming in some time today?"
    Me: "huh? I'm out of town, dude... ummm... you knew this... you approved it w/the other boss etc??"
    Him: "umm... I'll get back to you"

    *sigh

    So... my entire trip was just about done (I had 1 day left on a 2 week trip) and the 'new boss' hits me up and asks "So is this one week paid and one week not paid?"

    :/

    I really didn't know how to respond. In my mind this was approved paid time off where I was still actually STILL working (I worked nearly everyday of the trip).

    Anyway... new boss leaves me a text and says he decided for this pay period he'd pay me for one week paid and one week not paid. ONE DAY LEFT ON MY TRIP and literally one day left before getting paid for that period and he tells me he's cutting my money in half.

    So I go to my 'old boss' and tell him how I'm getting fucked.. how time was approved... how for years I've always worked on the road etc. (Mind you... my gig is now full-time but there is no 'new' money / raise / bonus for coming on board... no paperwork or contract update... just a NEW PARTNER in the mix). The old boss says "That's why I brought this guy on board... to handle this stuff... you'll need to take it up w/him." So basically he left me hanging. The new boss doesn't want to pay for the 2 weeks off (and he didn't... the pay period came and went and now my account is overdrawn I had no choice but to let the bank handle some payments I couldn't miss so I'll pay the overdraft fees).

    I'm beyond pissed... but I have no clue how to handle this w/out the help of the other boss. The new guy is just doing as he sees fit and pretty much told it is what it is... :(

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    • this is classic contract-creep. that slow, organic change in a work relationship. sucks dude.Gnash
    • The only way to avoid this is to have really clearly defined boundaries and call them out as they happen.Gnash
    • this is the downside to being conscientious and having an agreeable nature.Gnash
    • If Old Boss is still A Boss and he OK'd it, then you should forward that confirmation to New Boss and let them duke it out. Sounds like their fuck-up.Nairn
    • take this note you made and edit it for clarity and send it to the new guy. you need to define the boundaries...Gnash
    • old boss is letting the new boss save moneyimbecile
    • ... because un-checked, they will always morph to the favour of the disagreeable one in the relationshipGnash
    • Sorry to hear. Are you living from paycheck to paycheck?NBQ00
    • not usually, NBQ...it's just having a check cut in half unexpectedly right when I just poured a bunch of money into a 2 week trip kinda stingsPonyBoy
    • The fabric is destroyed, the new boss wants to get his peeps in there, time to move on...robotron3k
    • The old boss also basically said fuck youcannonball1978
    • looks like they dont care if you get things done outside or not. they want that you stay inhouse and take away your freedom, for the same pay...api
    • this could be a good starting point for a pay-rise! in exchange for your freedom. if you dont want to give up your freedom, find out the real reason why they.>>api
    • want you inhouse. (control?, performance? or what ever...) then try to take away their frears with good arguments. (>creative outside, less pay, etc..)api
    • Time to renegotiate. That's no way to do business if you had an agreement.monNom
    • Fuck that. You were doing work on holiday and they still found something to moan about to not pay you?PhanLo
    • he fucked you. renegotiate or leave.
      next time they dump new people over your head make sure you know what to expect while laughing on their jokes...      sted
    • waitwaitwait, I missed the bit you were working WHILST on leave? Fuck. Them.
      Out of order. Stand up and don't take that shit.      Nairn
    • Do you have anything in writing?mugwart
    • Pony are you actively seeking new employment?robotron3k
    • mug... the agreement about the paid time off was in writing (an email to both partners 2+ months old). Robo... kinda am now :PPonyBoy
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