Graphic Design is dying
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- Bennn0
"The End of Professional Photography?"
article: https://medium.com/@robert.rittm…
and: https://www.thephoblographer.com…
- -Now read this and apply it to Graphic Design:
"The article centers around the fact that all things in the technology world start out strong with early adopters going on to make huge sums of money,
followed by the masses who buy the same technology as they want a piece of the pie, which then leads to the early adopters offering to teach the newbies everything they know for a chunk of change, and then the industry dies due to overcrowding.
The author likens the world of professional photography to desktop publishing and web development, both of which apparently suffered this fate.
In fact he says that once people begin to offer services that will help teach others, it’s game over."I'm not saying he's right, but it's true that graphic design and photography are not only for real professionals anymore, lots of persons jump in the boat and improvise themselves as pros, and this is devaluating the profession
- There's probably a larger market for professional photography(and video) now than every before. Sometimes increasing supply increases demand as well.monNom
- Just look at Instagram, it's insatiable.monNom
- lots of enthusiats and good amateurs on Instagram, dunno how many real prosBennn
- Nah if it just means tons of all-the-gear-no-idea dingbats doing gash work, leaving decent designers to fix it all, bring it on.MrT
- * I claim no decency.MrT
- ... the same arguments were being made when Kodak came out with roll film. No one predicted the rise of photo-journalism, it will go on you just have to trustzarkonite
- the creativity of artists. The masses just follow trends and then quit out of boredom.zarkonite
- Well, it's kinda hard to say you're a pro with 1 year experience or less...grafician
- pango4
Everything is dying.
- sarahfailin5
Garphic design lives!
- doesnotexist0
what is art?
- tart waish?SigDesign
- design without client2002
- like MichelAngelo in the sistine chapelMiesfan
- but what is graphic design and why does it matter?doesnotexist
- SigDesign1
I've noticed innovation in design change a great deal with web and mobile.
5 or 6 years ago, designers would be much more adventurous in how they structured and designed a user interface.
However, now that the public is becoming a bit more attuned to the language of digital media and devices, it only makes sense that design is starting to become a bit more standardized.
After all... how many ways should you design a web button? Statistics are also a factor in the patterning of design trends. It'd be difficult for users if navigation was inconsistent, etc. Many people who approach me for web design work are better served by just making a Squarespace site. Even still... they always want something that Squarespace doesn't do by default.
A good designer is still a useful asset who knows about space, form & function, typography, and intent. When I hear 'graphic design,' I just think of posters and book covers...screen printing & t-shirt design. There is a physical element to that, which may not be as desirable as it once was... records vs. streaming music services (although records have a solid base) for example.
It's true that everyone thinks they're a designer, but it's still surprisingly difficult to find consistently good designers when you delve into the hiring process. Some of it is taste... some is attitude... not moving with the times... arrogance and unwillingness to change.
We should always be open to change.
- weirdname2
- YOUR DRAWING IS SHIT!Ben99
- https://36.media.tum…weirdname
- monNom3
I'm going to just repeat what everyone else is saying. Design is not dying. The market for visual design services, and communications strategy is probably larger than it's ever been. Every company has an Instagram these days, along with a voracious appetite for new content to feed it. Who's going to fill it up with images, that stand out and attract followers, if not a creative?
As for Wix et al. That's not your market anyways. It's not even a design service. It's an assembly line product. People get tricked into thinking the product is what they're buying when really they want expertise.
You don't go to a doctor because he sells you the same prescription he sells everyone else. You got to a doctor because he knows what to ask and what to look for so that you get the right prescription for your needs, and then you get better.
- Continuity0
'we dont all do work for Nike and Apple'
Oh, boy.
You've got a very black-and-white view of this, you know. I assume you freelance, yeah? Then why you just get on the freelancer pool with Cossette, BBDO, Havas and whoever the fuck else are in Montréal (I don't remeber now, and frankly don't care to do so) and do good non-template graphic design for provincial or national (or *gasp* even international!) brands at 500 CAD a day?
If you're going to focus on 'des compagnies de broche à foin' — to use your local patois — as clients then, yeah, you're going to get paid utter shit. On the other hand, you don't need to work for Nike or Apple to command a decent rate.
Now stop the doomsday shit, and get to work.
- 500 CAD ain't worth much these days.nb
- I'm not up on what day rates are like there, anymore. Haven't lived for a long time.Continuity
- lived there*Continuity
- 500 CAD is nothing.bainbridge
- Well said. I manage to find clients who want good design even this fucking hell hole of a city. People forget design is a job and your shitty clients are azarkonite
- reflection of your ability to acquire clients.zarkonite
- Salarrue0
Let's be honest, we all hate stupid small assignments. Canva, squarespace, wix and even fucking godaddy have a specific product for that specific clients. I reckon that this a good opportunity for real designers to create projects like this : http://makingpolicypublic.net/in…
- we are required and have the tools to deploy small projects from our own workflow without 3rd party service providers.sted
- I just finished laughing with a client on how we're going to make a simple gallery page for his restaurant interesting. It's a micro project, with simple ideassted
- For me it isn't just interesting because it's easy and original, but he can't get it from these instant services. that's how i think about this competition.sted
- And more time consulting, less time moving items in illustrator...Salarrue
- I love those services, it's an easy way to get rid of bottom feeders.zarkonite
- milfhunter3
adapt or die
- Bennn0
I'm looking around on upwork.com to find some freelance work... This is probably the most popular website out there to find work in various catergories. There's a lot of jobs available BUT the budget of the companies/people posting job are ridiculous! Just an example, "i need an illustrator to create 10 icons for a website based on the drawings i've made - Budget: 15$" .... A logo, budget 5$ ... A products catalogue, budget 50$ .... Multiple photo retouching including upscaling not large enough pics (!) and changing background, budget: 20$
Fuck that!
- 20 banners design for 100$
yeeeah!Bennn - on upwork you have to build up some reputation to access the bigger projects.sted
- freelancer.com offers better options for quick money, but competition is huge.sted
- this is the open market. It makes sense if you're living in vietnam where $300/month gets you pretty far._niko
- 20 banners design for 100$
- hans_glib0
monoboy said "It's true, everyone can be a designer"
no they can't, not without training, and not even then is it guaranteed they'll have any aptitude.
design is about a lot more than just laying shit out in a nice way, (which is what i'm assuming canva does).
you need to be able to understand what the message is and how best to communicate that message.
- Bennn-1
"My company ########. We are wholesale distributors of fresh produce in midwest. Some of the products we trade are Banana, onion, oranges, potatoes, watermelons, and others. We are looking for a company to design a website for us.
Featured Job
$100
Fixed-price
"A website for 100$ ?
Seriously?- they must think you'll work for peanutssarahfailin
- or bannasrattail
- Go off the shelf, free template, done.i_monk
- any designer who takes this job is supporting these shit business practices, even if they use a templatemonospaced
- I know, just saying it's fairly achievable compared to other examples posted here.i_monk
- D4W33D1
- every problem has its solution
https://www.youtube.…gonzalle - hahaha film today!mugwart
- this is how a programmer feels in meetingsmugwart
- every problem has its solution