What isn't art?
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- doesnotexist1
the market decides what is art, otherwise it's purely an academic exercise in debate
- MrAbominable0
^ to paraphrase you: the market decides what is commodity. not "what is art". the "what is art" part vacillates to the market which is what creates fashion and wild swings at auction.
- marychain0
Their seems to be a misconception that art is skillfully demonstrated craft. It's more intellectual than that.
By the way...Pollack had intent...just no real conception of outcome...that's where the spontaneity came from.
- mekk0
The Nazis tried to tell us what is art and what not. As most of us know, it went wrong. No one is fucking telling what is art and what isn't. If you see yourself as an artist and you make a piece, then it's art, end of story. Might be shit art, but this is up the one who creates it or sees it.
Yes, I haven't read the posts before mine.
- yurimon-4
questine,
How is art not that different from religion?. you have different congregations of esthetic belief systems based off of what you socially ingest as a construct of your reality.
it seems to feed reinforcement of particular realities of groups however its consumed, or a reflection of the culture or society.
- shutupinteliboy
- dont be an ignant you hispter.yurimon
- stop insisting we're arguing with you and then tell people they're ignorant simply because they want to stay on topicmonospaced
- stop insisting you think im arguing with you.yurimon
- its relevant to the subject.yurimon
- Ya... No one is talking about religion... Please keep religion related discussion in the religion thread.pango
- Can you explain your point of view to us as if it's not reinforced by particular reality, group? Art can be a reflection of culture and society but can youpango
- Elaborate further?pango
- you have no idea of concepts? or you can go of on a tandem after seeing one word in a whole line of thoughtyurimon
- go off on a tandem?monospaced
- Yurimon is pure genius.ORAZAL
- he just keeps bringing up his butthurt instead of moving on.scarabin
- i know you are upset scar,yurimon
- marychain-1
Pango, your mom is not art unless I take her picture intending to reveal something perhaps previously unseen or unacknowledged about her and I post it in the milf thread
- Wow who's the childish one here. You can't seem to maintain a level headed discussion.pango
- If you want to argue. Argue. Don't start calling name.pango
- And quit trying to insult people. It doesn't move the conversation foward.pango
- LOL...this "conversation". You'
re trollingmarychain - My example is funny...but validmarychain
- Check out Mapplethorpe perhapsmarychain
- Ya I like Mapplethorpe. What about it?pango
- see_thru0
Found object that isn't art, but, switch it's context....or put it in a big white room and tadahhhh....
- Nailed itORAZAL
- Add a suit-wearing guard and you can charge admission.freedom
- "a genius idea"freedom
- I'm liking the ladder metaphor...you can climb up into your own ass...see_thru
- Boy. Some of you guys don't understand art history at all. tell me...did you snigger when had to draw nude models in school?marychain
- understanding art history has nothing to do with the fact that some items are considered art in different contexts, holy shit you are condescendingmonospaced
- "some items are considered art in different contexts".....NO SHIT!!!marychain
- The artist repurposed them in a new arrangement or context to INTENTIONALLY give them meaning TRANSCENDENT of their original functionmarychain
- If you understood the (mostly) linear path of art history until the Modern...you would understand thismarychain
- The thought, the intent, the transformative quality is the art.marychain
- it's like talking to (a very dumb) wallmarychain
- Peasants I tell you.ORAZAL
- I DO understand this, that's the exact point I was making originally.monospaced
- Just because it sucks doesn't mean it's not art.nb
- I'm actually bit suprised at the infantile level of responses to this subject. I mean Fucking LOL slogan got 17-20 upvotes.yurimon
- you don't know the history of Fucking LOL? if you did, you'd understand why it got voted upmonospaced
- Thanks mono...as a masters grad with a fine art background I appreciate the comment. Marychain, you'll be glad to know there was no sniggering.see_thru
- "put it in a big white room and tadaa?"
Sounds like an mfa art history grad to me...christmarychain - Art can suck and it's still art.
how good an art is, is very subjective.pango - I can tell you stories about nude models in school... (4 years obligatory nude drawing class) @marychainSimonFFM
- at first you rip on us because you think we didn't go to art school, then you rip on someone because they may have an art history mba?monospaced
- It's called self reflecting humour Marchain....the ability to not take yourself too seriously. Others might call it being relaxed.see_thru
- he meant snicker.bklyndroobeki
- Uuuugh I don't want to remember nude drawing in school. We only had money to hire fucking grand ma and grand pa...pango
- he meant 'snigga'sarahfailin
- freedom1
- THANK YOU!! I've been trying to find this movie! Lolpango
- Yeah, good chuckles.nb
- Taking art punches from Hollywood - that understands art to the extend of knowing who Davinci or Michelangelo were...pr2
- ...is like shitting in a cup and calling it a pudding (no, don't go there).pr2
- I bet someone did an art piece like that.pango
- sums up most of Patryk Rebiszs work, sexist and racist garbageGuyFawkes
- ShenanigansTV0
Art happens in the mind. It is a thought, a moment of revelation.
The better the art, the longer it provides revelation.
- iCanHazQBN0
What about a poop? Is it art? I made it. It has a unique shape and texture every time.
I think poop is art.
- http://img.pandawhal…iCanHazQBN
- You're full of shit.freedom
- Chris Ofilimarychain
- I would say poop it self isn't art. But you can definitely use it to make a statement.pango
- Then it becomes artpango
- Chris Ofilimarychain
- Andres Serranomarychain
- Carina Úbedamarychain
- https://www.youtube.…pablo28
- if you ate it that would be art.docpoz
- http://www.bitsandpi…scarabin
- scared to click ^moldero
- Piero Manzoni from the 60'svaxorcist
- marychain0
Sorry for sounding condescending, it's just that most of this is academic. This forum is for (I assume) people with knowledge of art & design, who understand the history, principles, names and theories of that which we practice.
If you want to argue some of the finer points...I get that, but I assumed we all had a working definition.
When you pose a question like "What isn't art?" all I can think of is this guy....a rank amateur, stoned out his mind with enough freshmen art history and philosophy under his belt to bore everyone to death
- yurimon-1
- http://i.imgur.com/F…ORAZAL
- Yes...let's set on fire...but that might be misconstrued as performance...which is kind of art.see_thru
- yuekit0
Just as 100 years ago no one would have dreamed that the act of Photoshopping and reprinting the Instagram post of a porn star might be considered art (not that any of that would make sense to them), 100 years from now the concept of what "art" is will probably have evolved into something similarly ridiculous to our eyes.
- utopian0
- That amateur Robert Gober and his bullshit! You people are awesome!ORAZAL
- Back up utopian. You are looking silly.
also helps to use the correct spelling of "there" when calling others dumb.marychain - Unfortunately, I did not see any 80yr. old fat fucks at Museum, I was disappointed son.utopian
- And the so called art that I paid 22 bucks to see was shit.utopian
- LOLmarychain
- To be fair, that light installation is probably broken and isn't finished yet.freedom
- Rolls eyes.freedom
- http://www.youtube.c…moldero
- light installation broken or not ready? How would one ever tell????iCanHazQBN
- docpoz3
Your mother was art last night, Trebek!
- omahadesigns-3
To be "high-art," it has to be approved by someone really rich and of cultural status.
- Unfortunately in art, design, music, etc...
The cream does not necessarily always rise to the top.utopian - like marychain?monospaced
- Unfortunately in art, design, music, etc...