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- Ben991
- downvote incoming, even when turkey downs a plane thus protecting isis, people still believe they did it because they flew over a 5km2 area.. sighgeorgesIII
- monospaced0
Imagine if we dumbo-dropped thousands of kilos of heroine directly into the heart of ISIS camps. Let them become junkies.
- Why? They already have religion.detritus
- they already are junkies:
http://www.independe…Gnash - Airdropping women into ISIS camps could workyuekit
- amphetamines just make them more agro... the heroine would just turn them into junkies... but there are too many bad side effects for the societymonospaced
- ah, yes,Gnash
- georgesIII2
sigh
- PonyBoy0
I tend to think that an ideology can indeed be killed... as long as it's not founded on theology.
You can't fight faith...
...reasonability is out the door the minute someone doesn't mind dying and taking a few folks with them in the name of their God. Christians 'following orders' away at war are just as bad Muslims wrapping themselves in homemade TNT sweaters... doesn't matter who it is—if they think God is on their side—it's nearly impossible to reason with them.
- Kill ISIS, something else will replace it.
Shit has gone too far this time.ApeRobot
- Kill ISIS, something else will replace it.
- pinkfloyd0
ISIS won't go away. You can't kill an ideology.
- Ben990
When and how do you think all this ''terrorists'' shit will end?
- Peace...no peace!utopian
- It's hard to say. Americans want ISIS crushed, but don't want American boots on the ground.mg33
- Its like arresting a drug dealer, the next day there's a new one replacing the other. How can you end this? They need to go to the head of all this.Ben99
- But USA wont touch Saudi Arabia, so we're fucked.Ben99
- The big problem is that even if an overwhelming force destroys them in the ME, their sympathizers in other places just grow stronger.mg33
- I have a bad feeling that we will be watching this for 5, 10, 15+ years to be honest. If not them, whoever comes next.mg33
- They are capitalizing on the misfortune of many, promising them money, women, a better life by joining them. Disillusioned men with nothing to live formg33
- can be enticed by so little.mg33
- In Quebec, people are mixing everything up and lots and lots of people are getting super racist towards anything that look muslim.Ben99
- people are getting their news and info on Facebook from sketchy news websites and from people comments. its getting out of control.Ben99
- and the more they hate muslims, the more muslims hate them. ... that can lead to frustrated young muslims easily influencable. by djihadists propagangda.Ben99
- Yep. And lots of the GOP candidates in the US, Trump especially, are stirring that up big time.mg33
- There needs to be a significant outcry from major Muslim nations about this, because it hurts them, too.mg33
- totallyBen99
- and yet the neighboring countries will not even accept the refugees, that's just bizarre, no?formed
- youngdesigner0
Anonymous Says ISIS Plans Attacks Against 'Paris And The World' Sunday
- https://media.giphy.…pablo28
- get them to pay for decent hosting - site doesn't work.fadein11
- does now.fadein11
- @YourAnonNews: "We did not spread any rumors about possible future ISIS attacks, and frankly, we do not know where the rumors come from." 2 hours later.uan
- kingsteven4
- +1PeterPancake
- was just about to post this as well_niko
- But the most surprising thing I learned about ISIS during my reading is that the primary target of their hatred is not the United States. It's not France or Rus_niko
- sia, either. The one "enemy" they devote more time to ranting against than anyone else is the "apostate Muslim." The vast majority of people ISIS kills are_niko
- ...Musilms_niko
- Do any of you guys know why they call their magazine dabiq? Or the history behind it?Hayoth
- Glossy magazine for contemporary religious fascists.Cactus
- They believe the city of dabiq is where Armageddon will take place. They use history to plan future attacksHayoth
- MakeBelieve0
Without sounding like a conspiracy nut, I thought it would be interesting for people to know that many Muslims knew the coming of ISIS would occur, as they are a specific type of group that continues to emerge and die off throughout history.
They are known as Khawarij (separatists) and they have consistently been wiped out or expelled throughout history by Muslims.
The predictions about the type of people ISIS are was made by the Prophet Muhammad himself, in a collection of narrations including this:
“It is related on the authority of ‘Ali (may Allah ennoble his countenance): ‘When you see the black flags, remain where you are and do not move your hands or your feet (It’s a common phrase meaning: “Stay put and don’t get involved in the fighting”). Thereafter there shall appear a feeble folk to whom no concern is given. Their hearts will be like fragments of iron. They are the representatives of the State (Ashab al-Dawla). They will fulfill neither covenant nor agreement. They will invite to the truth, though they are not from its people. Their names will be agnomens [i.e., Abu So-and-so], and their ascriptions will be to villages. Their hair will be long like that of women. [They shall remain so] till they differ among themselves, and then Allah will bring forth the truth from whomever He wills.’”
1. Black flags: ISIS use black flags.
2. Feeble: They are newcomers to the fight in Syria and relative nobodies till they took swathes of land that was taken by other fighters.
3. Hearts like fragments of iron: Watch any of their videos and judge for yourself.
4. Ashab al-Dawla: They call themselves, the Dawla ('State').
5. Breaking agreements: They broke agreements and refused Shariah arbitration.
6. Invite to the truth, though not from its people: Yes, they’re Khawarij (Separatists).
7. Their names will be agnomens: Abu Hamza, Abu Qatada etc meaning (Father of Hamza...) hiding their real names.
8. Their ascriptions will be to villages: Villages here could be read as cities; most of them are al-Iraqi, al-Misri, al-Maghribi, al-Tunisi, etc.
9. Long hair: See Abu Ibrahim and the other assorted characters.You can know more about it in this clip of Hamza Yusuf Hanson, a highly respected American Muslim (convert) scholar from California.
- why didn't they do anything about it?dirtydesign
- Seems like Mohammad wasn't really a really good role model for peace and loving thy neighbor. Just saying.robotron3k
- Actually he was brilliant. He took care of his neighbours, even those that hurled rubbish at him. He was entrusted with money for sake-keeping even by the Jews.MakeBelieve
- He was known to admired by his enemies for his honesty and truthfulness. He warned against people like ISIS and told people to stay away or fight them.MakeBelieve
- Muslims have been continuously wiping out the likes of extremism that ISIS represents. This time however, they are well funded.MakeBelieve
- Most 'Muslim' countries are led by corrupt leaders and they couldn't care less about ISIS or Islam. They use ISIS to crack down on opposition and change.MakeBelieve
- ISIS/Khawarij are those that would even reject Muhammad, so instead of emulating him, they think they are the absolute final word on right/wrong in Islam.MakeBelieve
- Prophet said that his community (Muslims) are people of 'wasat' (middle) - meaning of moderation. He implied don't be over zealous nor too liberal/lax. Balance.MakeBelieve
- MakeBelieve0
Some of these images are very revealing about ISIS.
It seems some of their propaganda stunts reveal that they don;t know the first thing about being Muslim and praying.
Images below show them in groups prostrating towards different directions, which is strange as Muslims only pray towards Mecca. Why are they prostrating in different directions - weird?
Somebody send them the Dummies Guide to Islam, quick!
- They find out terrorists in France were young men drinking beer, selling drugs and they never go to the Mosq or pray. Neibourghs says.Ben99
- Just read another article about the woman who kamikazed herself against the police 2 days ago...Ben99
- ... she was wearing mini-skirt, drinking, going out, all the stuff ISIS supposedly hate about Western culture. Thats strange no? I think there's analysis to do.Ben99
- there is thinking to do. the terrorist that hit europe are european. badly integrated individuals who were born and raised in europe but were mobbed by society.uan
- this is the people IS recruits in the west for their war. they are the product of bad integration policies in the west.uan
- and with ISIS people are becoming more and more racist and that will get that integration even worst... resulting in more frustrated people who will turn to ISIBen99
- when i've said we were in a downward spiral, this is the downward spiral.Ben99
- @Makebelieve Stupidity knows no bounds, presume you have seen the film 'Four Lions'?Bluejam
- I doubt most of the western converts really care about being a muslim. They want something bigger, to be remembered as part of something.formed
- The Columbine killers weren't bullied, they just wanted to be famous and remembered.formed
- there's a parallel to make with school shootings and those terorists for sure.Ben99
- ^agreed. these clowns are all friendless losers who cannot assimilate into any corner of society.dirtydesign
- In France they have a 2nd-class citizenship attitude to many, particularly North African Arabs, its racism and ghettoisation, add that to the mix sadly.MakeBelieve
- These overnight 'Islamic' terrorists seem quite unbelievable and clearly show they aren't Islamically-motivate... at all. Muslims know that already.MakeBelieve
- @uan - please explain France's bad integration problemsfadein11
- hmm so the muslim neighbours of the terrorists say they were bad muslims. They have NO reason to make them look like they're not real muslims now would they?zarkonite
- Her neighbour was saying that they don't have a problem with extremism in their hood... except that's where the first female kamikaze grew up. We shouldn't bezarkonite
- listening to regular people and populist journalists who just want to sell more papers. Expert opinions, FACTS and thoughtful analysis is what we need.zarkonite
- in the paris attack they came from Belgium's Molenbeek. In France they are called banlieues. Ghettos, places that group minorities, where it's tougher to succeduan
- it's easier to create friendless losers in those places.uan
- @bluejam four lions is a great flick, and of course you mention it, given your usernamegarbage
- Why dont u say "it's not radical islam." The level that some of you are going to protect radical islam and disassociate jihad from islam is disturbing.Hayoth
- I am so confused why those on this board go to great lengths to protect radical islam yet will attack christianity viemently with vitriol.Hayoth
- Allahu akbarutopian
- muslims and islam need a rebrand imhotrooperbill
- Hayoth - who is attacking Christianity on the board, out of curiosity?MakeBelieve
- Ben99-3
I've made you a drawing to explain something I think is pure logic.
- So. If Nation B let Bad Nation B continue is non-sense attack on Nation A. That mean Nation B endorse Bad Nation B.Ben99
- Forget all the political subtles and non subtles stuff between Middle East and the West here. Just analyse this drawing and tell me its logic.Ben99
- http://imgfave-herok…
http://media1.break.…Bluejam - http://media1.break.…Bluejam
- dude. where is the question? if you propose a 'logical' solution you should ask a question or present the problem first.uan
- https://i.imgur.com/…set
- lol, you guise are not honest and just looking to make me feel stupid. But you know this is logic.Ben99
- Well obviously Islam isn't a nation...just look at all the competing groups only in Syria. It's dozens of groups with different agendas fighting each other.yuekit
- This is awesome Ben!
https://i.imgur.com/…isleptwithsirenstonight - This entire diagramme is completely non-sensical. You're dealing with a de-centralised network, not a nation-state.Continuity
- The rules of diplomatic relations and warfare can not and do not apply in the case of Daesh. Or any other terrorist network, with the possible exception of ...Continuity
- ... the IRA.Continuity
- FOR FUCK SAKE!
I said FORGET Middle East and West in this diagram and tell me THIS diagram is logic. Can you not read? IM FUCKING ANGRY NOW ;-)Ben99 - Ok, so you're asking us to interpret this without a context. Which isn't possible. So we return to the ideas of this diagramme being non-sensical.Continuity
- even the figure isis gives for membership would be something like .001% of muslims.kingsteven
- Utter fluffset
- I like the little dents on nation A.
Attention to detail.isleptwithsirenstonight - The benfal ofcthe day thread needs to be revived, so badlyAl_dizzle
- That was a truly sad qbn day when that was deleted. Ben did you ask for it to be deleted? I guess that'd be the only fair enough reason...set
- For you Ben:
https://i.imgur.com/…
<3isleptwithsirenstonight - also.. the dents... islept is right... THOSE DENTSAl_dizzle
- Dose dents doghset
- So since the seperatists in Quebec have committed acts of terrorism, you're saying it's my duty to make sure your kind is wiped out? Or did you forget about thezarkonite
- FLQ my friend?zarkonite
- You're talking to me like you want to give me a lesson of something... I get your point yeah, the FLQ. Ok.Ben99
- If you're not interested in discussing your ideas, don't put them out there. My "lesson" is that you're over simplifying and showing your ignorance of the factszarkonite
- There is plenty of dissent in the middle east. It just doesn't reach you. If you're really interested you should make an effort to learn about it.zarkonite
- Here we are talking about how many refugees we should take in Canada and Quebec. I guess all those muslims weren't too happy with those other muslim assholes!zarkonite
- i see you and many didnt get my point and dont understood when i've said forget middle east and just analyse my graphic. but its ok, im tired of this now.Ben99
- YOU don't get my point. Your example is too simple to apply to real life, it's useless to think about 3 groups and one of them is bad and then everything is okzarkonite
- if we get rid of them and that's the job of nation B not nation A!zarkonite
- oey0
- use imgur. that anoncrap spams like hell.uan
- its very funny oey. those posts will be deleted. thanks. On QBN i mean.Ben99
- censorship. trumps finger everywhere...
you know i like you so please don't take it too seriously.oey - hey uan. nomrally i use cloudapp but i was logged in the linux partition and needed some quick option. i'm not interested in imgur but thanks for your input.oey
