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- pango0
'AHABAK!!!!!!
- PeterPancake1
- saw this yesterday, galloway called it.dorf
- i like how the british say "america is arrogant" in an extremely arrogant way.robotron3k
- ^
is it false?georgesIII - sadly Benazir Bhutto was assassinated by Islamists in 2007IRNlun6
- America can def act arrogant but the Brits are actually much better at being arrogant. Must be that lilt in their voice...robotron3k
- _niko2
from the atlantic article above:
After its battle in Dabiq, Cerantonio said, the caliphate will expand and sack Istanbul. Some believe it will then cover the entire Earth, but Cerantonio suggested its tide may never reach beyond the Bosporus. An anti-Messiah, known in Muslim apocalyptic literature as Dajjal, will come from the Khorasan region of eastern Iran and kill a vast number of the caliphate’s fighters, until just 5,000 remain, cornered in Jerusalem. Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus—the second-most-revered prophet in Islam—will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory.
This reads like a bad WWE script, Jesus comes out of nowhere, fans go nuts, but switches sides and helps the Muslims with a folding chair to the head of the west lol.
- Those people are still in Dark Ages. They didnt evolved.Ben99
- lol When I read that I flipped my shit too. Jesus returns to fight for the Muslims. That should get the evangelicals scratching their heads.sarahfailin
- Ben991
Read this: http://www.theguardian.com/comme…
Interesting article.
How West learned nothing on the war of terror.
We are repeating the same errors. ..
And again, thank you G. W. Bush. We're in this because of him.
- You are an idiot.Hayoth
- Obama took troops out of Iraq and Obama and Clinton sent weapons to Isis through beghngazi and overthrew Libya and egypt. And you still blame bush??? Mindless.Hayoth
- Bush fucked everything up and Obama enterered in Washington with a disaster to clean. He didn't managed to clean it.Ben99
- Many experts says it btw, not meBen99
- Without Bush we wouldn't have ISIS. Its a fact.Ben99
- Bush started it. Obama made it an even bigger mess by encouraging the destabilization in other countries (libya, egypt, syria, etc.)dorf
- bush made a mess. no one could clean it uphotroddy
- Why is this getting downvoted??
#benfalwasrightyuekit - Iraq was planned in the Wolfowitz Doctrines back in Bush Sr.'s reign, it goes back a long waysformed
- sadly, it seems to go on regardless of who's in power, makes you wonder who's really calling the shotsformed
- One way of looking at it is that the U.S. cares more about their geostrategic aims than the problem of terrorism, even though terrorism is what gets talkedyuekit
- about all the time by the media. Or maybe they are just incompetent and don't realize consequences of their actionsyuekit
- Thanks OBushMamoldero
- If Hayoth says you're an idiot, you must be on the right track ;)sarahfailin
- _niko0
The brits are debating joining the airstrikes against isis, question is, does bombing actually do anything? it seems that they have all moved underground in elaborate tunnels and bunkers and maybe the only people who are getting hit are innocent civilians who aren't trying to hide underground.
Just an excuse for western countries to prop up some military spending? Job creation for arms companies?
- Well, if it encourages the cunts to expend their energies digging rat holes instead of hoying gays off rooftops, that's a little something, eh?detritus
- (but sure - the British position at the moment is shadowing MeTooism by red-faced right wing armchair generals)detritus
- 'red-cheeked', evendetritus
- Bombing prevents them from building out infrastructure and accumulating military hardware. It doesn't fight the root of the problem but it sure helps a lot ifzarkonite
- Daesh isn't running around in tanks and has massive barracks, etc.zarkonite
- bombing fuels the fire at the "root" of the problem, for suremonospaced
- majority of the airstrikes results in civilian slaughter. just look at the results of american airstrikes - isis has not been weakened at all.dorf
- yuekit0
So two years ago Cameron asked for authority to bomb Assad which was voted down. Now he is asking for authority to bomb Assad's enemies.
When was the last time a country was so desperate to enter a war that they tried to use the pretext of fighting one side, then the other side when that didn't work?
- Less desperation than reactive cluelessness and a profound lack of strategy or consideration.detritus
- imho, 'the coalition' (including Russia) would be as well to just send in loads of their special forces units and decapitate ISIS. Bombing's just bluster.detritus
- Maybe it's simply about getting more NATO forces into Syria to counter Russia and Iran.yuekit
- yeah, shit is totally crazy, aren't the brits, french and UStian the reason those rebels are so well armed in the first placegeorgesIII
- They created the enemy they now want to bomb and demi-wits like the original noter think it's just 'reactive cluelessness'.
Kill me nowset - The birth of ISIS is traced back to US prisons in Iraq. Google that folks.dirtydesign
- I'd like to point out said original poster and many like him are obviously intelligent people with a bulbous-wit about them in many aspects I'm sure...set
- just sadly not this crucial one.set
- original noter not posterset
- when the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nailsarahfailin
- Only if you're a dense cuntset
- lowimpakt1
this is a good interview with a french journalist that was a hostage of daesh
- interesting, great insight from the inside, we've been hearing more and more of this_niko
- isis was hurt by exodus of muslims to nonbeliever lands in europe- made paris attacks to close the borders. <great pt.sarahfailin
- yep, death cult confirmed :(georgesIII
- shit he almost got me, good nlp practitioner, even have the hooks and gestures,georgesIII
- utopian0
The NY Times provided examples of how ISIS runs this operation inside its territory:
In a neighborhood in Mosul, Iraq, ISIS has transformed a police station into a market and charges vendors 2.8 million Iraqi dinars, or roughly $2,500, per year to rent a stall.
In ISIS' de facto capital of Raqqa, Syria, the "Office of Services" collects a "cleaning tax" of about 2,500 to 5,000 Syrian pounds, or about $7 to $14, from merchants.
ISIS also charges for utilities like water and electricity, and residents go to "collection points" to pay their bills. Those usually total about 800 Syrian pounds, or roughly $2.50, for electricity, and 400 pounds, or about $1.20, for water.
ISIS' "Office of Resources" controls the group's oil and smuggling operations, in addition to businesses like soft-drink plants, mobile-phone companies, textile and furniture workshops, and factories that produce chemicals, cement, and tiles.
ISIS also skims revenue from small businesses, demanding a cut of their profits.
ISIS charges an income tax of about 10%.
ISIS imposes fines and fees for services or infractions including car registration, college textbooks, traffic violations, and smoking.
- How capitalist of them. I can see why they hate us so much.monospaced
- So Daesh is a low tax zone?
Perhaps some American corporations might choose to set up their HQs there?detritus - 10% flat tax... a Ted Cruz wet dream!wagshaft
- I wonder if there's an abortion clinic there in that market, y'know, next to the free healthcare that comes from ISIS controlmonospaced
- ..because America has a great record on abortion clinics?detritus
- And your healthcare system's a mess from what I hear from over this side of the pond.
Stones and glass houses, and all that...detritus - no shitmonospaced
- I was being sarcastic, sorry. Joking about how ISIS might be actually running a decent society with all the things we struggle to implement. Bad joke, sorry.monospaced
- Ah, I thought you were taking my joke seriously and responding in kind.
American sarcasm's an odd fish.detritus
- imbecile2
- #blazeitimbecile
- LOLisleptwithsirenstonight
- no beard, it's a fake.ApeRobot
- Sums up ISISutopian
- drgs3
Europe is to blame of course, but not for making terrorists' life worse -- European Islamists live nearly perfect lives (from their countrymen's perspective, wherever they are from).
Europe is to blame for the fact that they did not implement any assimilation policies, in general no policies were carried out at all. Because Europeans assume (quite reasonably in all other situations) that as long as people are happy, interfering with their lives has absolutely no reason.
The result of these policies are ghettos of residents who sell small crap to each other, engage in drug pushing, live on welfare, and all free time from selling drugs is dedicated to religion.
I have nothing against selling drugs, but religion is an extremely repulsive thing, infection of the mind, a mental virus which spreads among the slackers like fire, and if its not dealt with, it may escalate into an epidemic
That is, the whole of Europe is to blame: if you have flare-ups of religion in your city, it is necessary to burn all sources out with hot iron, and treat the victims with education, but Europeans let things drift
Discuss
- Assimilation is not easy. Every large cities in North America have ghettos of different people. We can't force them to integrate our society (or may we should?)Ben99
- There's lots of places in Montreal where people ghettoize themselves and dont speak franch or english. They live outside the 'normal' world that surround them.Ben99
- Rich, self-interested cunts make decisions about importing poor cunts in to make them more money, with scant regard for incumbent poor cunts, who stay poor.detritus
- nope drugs, europe isn't to blame, the people in power are to blame, reduce lybia and siria to cenere than wonder why they are so many conflict right at the doogeorgesIII
- taking responsibility as citizen and voting for politics that improve society and not just the revenues of big corporations is a start.uan
- ok, I know it's difficult to find that kind of politician...but at least I try. And I also hate politics because they all hide behind a party (ideology)uan
- and when elected they get under pressure from lobbies and have to deal with reality... :/uan
- time to move from democracy based on representants to direct democracy: vote on each issue/law separately, can be done with internetdrgs
- Ben991
''Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi ridiculed for flashy wristwatch
The Islamic State leader prompts confusion among his followers after appearing in his first public address wearing a wristwatch that resembles an expensive Omega or Rolex ''fyi: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is the ISIS leader
link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/…
- probably just a Kenneth Colemonospaced
- Have you just started reading up on ISIS or something, Ben? This shit's a year old and.. isn't this cunt dead, or at least fucked, now?detritus
- according to Wiki, no one knows if he's deadBen99
- Apple missed a great product placement opp there...fadein11
- drgs7
Hehe
https://www.facebook.com/faisals…It must be incredibly frustrating as an Islamic terrorist not to have your views and motives taken seriously by the societies you terrorize, even after you have explicitly and repeatedly stated them. Even worse, those on the regressive left, in their endless capacity for masochism and self-loathing, have attempted to shift blame inwardly on themselves, denying the terrorists even the satisfaction of claiming responsibility.
It's like a bad Monty Python sketch:
"We did this because our holy texts exhort us to to do it."
"No you didn't."
"Wait, what? Yes we did..."
"No, this has nothing to do with religion. You guys are just using religion as a front for social and geopolitical reasons."
"WHAT!? Did you even read our official statement? We give explicit Quranic justification. This is jihad, a holy crusade against pagans, blasphemers, and disbelievers."
"No, this is definitely not a Muslim thing. You guys are not true Muslims, and you defame a great religion by saying so."
"Huh!? Who are you to tell us we're not true Muslims!? Islam is literally at the core of everything we do, and we have implemented the truest most literal and honest interpretation of its founding texts. It is our very reason for being."
"Nope. We created you. We installed a social and economic system that alienates and disenfranchises you, and that's why you did this. We're sorry."
"What? Why are you apologizing? We just slaughtered you mercilessly in the streets. We targeted unwitting civilians - disenfranchisement doesn't even enter into it!"
"Listen, it's our fault. We don't blame you for feeling unwelcome and lashing out."
"Seriously, stop taking credit for this! We worked really hard to pull this off, and we're not going to let you take it away from us."
"No, we nourished your extremism. We accept full blame."
"OMG, how many people do we have to kill around here to finally get our message across?"- top kekApeRobot
- wowmonospaced
- enjoyed that a lot.fadein11
- https://www.youtube.…dorf
- OBBTKN1
Turks down Russian warplane in Syria:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-mi…- The beginning of the end?Milan
- Another scalation... I don't think Russia it's goint to attack Turkey, but is curious seeing other NATO countries collaborating with rus and Turkey's attitudeOBBTKN
- Turkey warned the plane 10 times in 5 min. They followed every international laws. They were allowed to shoot it.Ben99
- According to TurkeyIRNlun6
- Acording to Turkey :)Ben99
- Turkey supports Isis and invades the Greek airspace all the time.Milan
- 10 times in 5 mins? https://twitter.com/…Milan
- Ben992
Bush invaded irak over an Apocalyptic religious bullshit.
ISIS is believing in an upcoming apocalypse.
RELIGIONZ! :D
HOW COOL!- Humanz are evolving veeeery slowly. We're still in Dark Ages on some stuff.Ben99
- like proper spelling for exampleimagineallthepeople
- I dont speak english, you should know that mon ami :)Ben99
- spelling is not an examplemonospaced
- Ben992
- I read this last week. REALLY eye opening. Before you keep asking "why would they do X?" read this. ppl keep asking questions and isis is TELLING us the answerssarahfailin
- ''ISIS is no mere collection of psychopaths. Its a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that its a key agent of the coming apocalypse''Ben99
- granted the answers are bat-shit insane, but it's important to fully appreciate that if you're going to understand ISIS.sarahfailin
