Romney???
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- TheBlueOne0
"founded on the principle that you earn prosperity"
I think the founding principles are right here:
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Let's see government to...establish justice, check. Keep the peace and defend everybody. Something about general welfare. Try to keep liberty thing going long term. Check.Uh-huh.
I seem to miss the bit about prosperity and whether it is to be earned or given as a natural right. Can you please point it out there for me in those words. You know, the founding principles. Right there.
You know, there was a huge debate around 250 odd years ago between the Federalist and the Anti-Federalists that covered these issues - after the first attempt at nation founding floundered while trying out many of the same things the Conservatives of today seem to want. Maybe you should read some Thomas Paine. He wrote some founding principles you know. Had a few pamphlets that made the rounds. He made an argument for socialized healthcare in fact. That's been part of the debate since before day one. That's not something that got wrenched into the debate about what our Founding Principles are by some latter day marxists you know - or by some "dimocrats" or by Obama. It was discussed. By some of the Founders. It was there. At the beginning. Discussed among our founders.
Kinda sick and tired of you teabaggers re-inventing early american politics like you just discovered it and latch onto a few convenient facts that suit your argument and discard the rest by thinking it somehow doesn't count and saying stupid shit like "I believe in our founders when they said prosperity should be earned, not given."
You know what, "they" collectively didn't say that. There was lots of argument about it. Full blooded, American argument about what was and what wasn't granted by the government of the people, and the whole point was that we needed to figure it out for ourselves based on what was going on at any given time that would provide the best for the most. Heck, Jefferson even argued that we might need another revolution or so if things got hairy. You know, that kind of implies that what the Founders did wasn't sacrosanct even in their own minds. Go ahead and blow the shit up and start all over again if you have to. So, to say, using what you "truly believe" what the "founding principles" as some sort of appeal to unimpeachable objective authority is really just you talking out of your ass.
- http://www.urbandict…NathanNice
- Fucken ay, yes.mikotondria3
- so its given? Ok suit your needs.whhipp
- lol. you really need to loosen up TBO. Fuck an egg.whhipp
- mm..really, he doesn't. TBO is NT Royalty, when he speaks, we listen. Go back and sit down.mikotondria3
- TBO understood more than you'll ever know about American politics when you were collecting stuffed animals.DrBombay
- No wait..will egg fucking loosen me up? Really? That could solve lots of problems.TheBlueOne
- Are we talking scrambled, hard boiled? Raw? I need some more intel here.TheBlueOne
- reanimate0
Hmm
Romney paid out hundreds of thousands in bonuses to his advisers using campaign donations
- The Choice in this election is that you have no Choice. Your screwed with Obama and your screwed with romney.yurimon
- Besides politicians cant solve your problems..yurimon
- Only baby jesus can solve your problems.utopian
- If you really think there is no difference then you are the ignorant onereanimate
- Youre screwed with Obama and youre raped and shitted on with Romney. you pick.ArmandoEstrada
- When Obama screws you, he leaves a hot meal and a bed to sleep in.ETM
- When Romney rapes you, he leaves you in a ditch after and says "not my problem."ETM
- neight0
People who believe in http://pinterest.com/n8hackstock…
- aaux0
- ok you're doing it again.whhipp
- Showing you the racist side of the fucking teaparty cowards?aaux
- These are the same whiny punks who roll up their windows and turn the music down when driving through the city.aaux
- its racism you see... because he is using in context comments to a birther movemnet... its not comedy, its racism. Yes its racism!whhipp
- You all long for when america was nice and white and everyone went to church on sunday.aaux
- racism!!!!! aaagagaghahahah!!!!!whhipp
- yep for sure thats all i want. you are correct. keep that bs flowing like you like it.whhipp
- what part of what I said is wrong? mr neocon?aaux
- its his middle name.whhipp
- that republicans want a white america and go to church on sundays? really I have to show you where you went wrong? I think it speaks for itself, really.whhipp
- think it speaks for itself, really.whhipp
- why bring up his middle name? why not call him obama?aaux
- cause you racist neocons love to point out how "foreign" he isaaux
- sounds like you have some church issues. dont take it out on a party of various religious backgrounds.whhipp
- You can't show me wrong, that's the point.aaux
- I prefer Barry. But you guys call Bush, "W" same thing.whhipp
- you call republicans, neocons????whhipp
- various religious beliefs? You are a delusion neoconaaux
- Calling bush W is no where near the same, neoconaaux
- really what point is that? that you made no sense whatsoever. ok then.whhipp
- he was called bush because there was another goddamn george bush presidentaaux
- wow i sense some hatred?whhipp
- for neocons? absolutely, you fucks are the biggest threat to this country right nowaaux
- DuhhhhbyaRamanisky2
- yeah but its in the way you say it. Dubya! DODIDDOH! Racist!!!!whhipp
- funny how there's no where else in the world for you guys to go, no country fits your mindset even remotelyaaux
- nice try neocon, again, not even close in comparisonaaux
- whoa! look at the white house and government in general for the descent, not me my friend.whhipp
- funny how u would rather have a communist country than a capitalist country.whhipp
- again, you magically assume communism, neocon. That all you have?aaux
- Did this fucking tard say calling him W is racist?monospaced
- Ramanisky20
most likely posted before..
but this says it all about this corporate robot hack- what a fuckin dickwhereRI
- This guy is absolutely right and Romney is a dick. No different than slavery denying blacks rights.CygnusZero4
- If this guy loves a man with all his heart then fuck it, let them enjoy the same rights as the rest of us.CygnusZero4
- Fucking Mormans, NO to same sex marriage but YES to polygamy - that's messed upspot13
- timelineteh
- loserspot13
- at least he sticks to what he stands for, doesnt flip flop and actually gives the man complete respect.whhipp
- yeah.. however he flip flops on every other issueRamanisky2
- The Mormon's actually aren't for polygamy, that's more of an extremist thing. But I still can't stand him.monospaced
- this is NOT the same "No different than slavery denying blacks rights."ohhhhhsnap
- no way jose!Salarrue
- colin_s0
man his response to libya sure fucked him. good job, asshole.
- yurimon0
You also have to remember that oil companies close down their operations to artificially say there is a demand even if those refineries are profitable at the time...
- omahadesigns0
Don't support him because he uses brush script.
- CanHasQBN0
"at least he sticks to what he stands for, doesnt flip flop and actually gives the man complete respect."
– whhippI'm sorry, whhipp. But you're simply a moron (or a troll). Yes I resorted to namecalling...... and you don't deserve much more than that.
- DrBombay0
I think Christie sees the writing on the wall and realizes he is going to have to work with Obama for another couple of years.
I hope I am right.
- dibec0
- Oh, so now you conservatives love polls, huh?:)ukit2
- i could do that in .ai in 5 minutesteh
- I just found interesting.dibec
- ^itdibec
- only pole worth watching
ipokeraffiliate.com...yurimon - lost me.dibec
- its a pole for strippers thus implying that watching strippers is more honest then political poles.yurimon
- the only time i agree with yurimon.teh
- Sample: 430 Americans. LOL god that is stupid.CanHasQBN
- aaux0
- about time. thanks!whhipp
- again. in context, comedy. Not racism. Cap and Trade. Not trade as in slavery. Kenya, because its his homeland of his family.whhipp
- family. But I can see how u can construe it to be racism if you believe it to be racism before analyzing the content and context.whhipp
- context.whhipp
- Don't see any "Send Romney back to Mexico" signs, do you neocon?aaux
- You are a fucking joke if you think this lady had any reference to kenyan slavery in mind.aaux
- really? for realz?whhipp
- Laugh it off, neocon. You know it's trueaaux
- formed0
"Just work your asses off to get what you want."
Yeah, I think many of us do. There are certainly lazies aplenty, but this mentality of redistributing the "wealth" to the upper class is ludicrous. "Trickle down theory", which is proven to be ridiculous over and over, is the single most successful marketing gimmick of the last 100 years!!
Hmm, where did Obama get his credentials...oh, right, he worked this ass off and earned them. Where did Romney get his...ah, right, he inherited them.
- < thismonospaced
- ...and Mitt didnt work?whhipp
- he's unemployed, in his own wordsdrgs
- yes, unemployed- not employed by someone else. Does not mean not working.whhipp
- Mitt Romney was born wealthy. He's not a self-made man.Josev
- yurimon0
Utopian fyi,
http://www.examiner.com/article/…
Alot of fine print in politics my friend... looks like a with drawl on paper though. Yeah we cut troops. but hired mercs.
- Amerika
Fuck
Yeah!utopian - That's an increase in private sector jobs.digitdaily
- Amerika
- ukit20
@whhipp, just one example of blatant dishonesty was about repealing the Wall Street regulation law that was passed. Romney claimed he wanted to repeal it because it was too easy on Wall Street and propped up the big to fail banks.
Well, look at how is funding Romney's campaign, it's all Wall Street financial companies. You think that is really their concern with the law? In reality they want it repealed because it regulates the trading of derivatives which cuts into their profits, and that is the main purpose of the Romney campaign from the point of view of many of his funders.
- that is on both sides of the playing field. Obama has been a lot more more crony.dibec
- Romney is a private equity guy. Wall Street wants one of their own running things.ukit2
- well of course they do. People who have the Obama phone want to have their Obama phone. Come on now.dibec
- Yeah Romney has a crazy ideology of running the country into the ground... right.whhipp
- There's no such thing as an Obama phone, cmonukit2
- not my words ... http://www.youtube.c…dibec
- It's a government program that has been around a long time before Obama.ukit2
- correct. yet ... In 2008 the program cost $772 million, but by 2011 it cost $1.6 billion.dibec
- correct dibec!whhipp
- CanHasQBN0
^ And almost half the population of the country is for them too. You really think this corporatist gives a damn about the American people? He was born and bred for corporate greed. He's the epitome of it. His eyes are dollar signs. How Republicans can call Obama an "elitist" with a straight face is mind-boggling, considering where Romney comes from and how much money he has.
- dibec0
" Bewildered and lost without his teleprompter, President Obama flailed all around the debate stage last night. He was stuttering, nervous and petulant. It was like he had been called in front of the principal after goofing around for four years and blowing off all his homework. " Washington Times
