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- Hombre_Lobo0
@intelliboy
If you like a casual evening web browse im sure you would get enough use out it. I was surprised I use it so much, I expected yo be wanting a laptop when using a tablet, but its not the case.If anything I find moving to a laptop to do nothng but web browse after using an ipad kinda clunky and not as enjoyable.
- Also I've not had any YouTube problems. I'd look into how common that is. Unfortunate for formed :(Hombre_Lobo
- inteliboy0
I have a chance to get a new ipad for $300... Good deal, though I'm not sure I'd really use it often... Hmmm.. Only thing is am thinking playing youtube/vimeo over airplay will be nice.
- Hombre_Lobo0
^haha Im actually using a friends MacBook air at the mo, and the build quality is great. I'm quite enjoying mac osx too, still preferred windows but it's just preference and fimiliarity. I'm kinda considering the possibility of getting a Mac mini at some point too.
Stylus wise I have no experience, would be a great tool for you though, you're drawing crazy! Can't you use the same stylus on the tab 10.1 that you can on the note?
- craigatkinson0
wow, thanks Hombre, very useful info as ever! You know you'll be using a mac soon...Then an iphone...etc etc!
One of my main considerations is the use of the pad [of which ever type] to draw on / with. The Samsung note phone, I really like the stylus, much more than finger drawing on the iphone. I have seen the generic styli for ipad but things start to add up cost wise so it might be over £500 for the lowest ipad and a decent stylus...
Does anyone have experience of drawing with these tabs?
- I have an android tab and stylus (cheap), it's a bit of a let-down to be honest. not terribly accurate and no pressure sensingmonNom
- which, if you're coming from drawing on a wacom, really is a tough step backward.monNom
- I'm using the bamboo stylus and sketchbook pro app. Pretty good once you get use to it. £22goldieboy
- Hombre_Lobo0
yooooo craig!
i certainly did decide and I'm now the happy owner of an iPad 2.(when you say note 10.1, I'm guessing you mean the samsung galaxy tab 10.1)
it was a very tough choice but the overall smoothness of the iPad interface clinched it in the end. I do however much prefer the android system approach in terms of openness, which is why i was quite disappointed in the responsiveness and smoothness* of the tegra 2 tablets (by comparison). including the asus transformer which is thought to be the one of, if not THE best of that tegra 2 bunch. in reviews the asus transformer is said to be the smoothest of the tegra 2 tablets. sadly i didn't get to have a go on samsung galaxy tab 10.1.
*And when i talk of the smoothness / responsiveness differences they aren't worlds apart, but it does naturally affect the overall experience.
Im sure if i had an asus transformer i would be extremely happy, but when put side by side i preferred the smoothness of the iPad.
I do actually prefer the 4:3 ratio of the iPad, but you lose out on the higher res of the android tablets hd 1280x720 at the 16:9 ratio. android is naturally a better ratio for movie watching, but for web browsing the 4:3 seems better to me.
difference between iPad 3 and iPad 2 to me are quite minor, i won't be upgrading at all. the screen is adequate on the iPad 2 and i love it being jailbroken, something the 3 won't get for a long time.
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[lengthy reply...]I actually found my iPad a little annoying until i got it jailbroken, it felt very locked down, like when you want to play a video someone has emailed you, or extract certain files, but after jailbreak it was loads better. not to mention how horrific iTunes is on windows. once jailbroken you never have to touch it again, i use ifunbox now, its a free simple fast little program.
Flash isn't really too much of an issue, i use iswifter when i need to see flash content on the iPad, which isn't all that often. however it still doesnt fix the fact that iOS doesn't support flash without any actual reason for not having flash, i can kinda see the why with the first gen iOS devices in regards to flash draining battery, but modern devices can easily handle it.
Also why does a company think they can tell you what you can and cannot view online. Its like a company said "check out our new tablets, they're great...no no you can't view images, that drains too much battery". when in actual fact they are just saying that their devices are inadequate to give you full internet.
But regardless of all of those annoyances and embarrassingly pretentious adverts and keynote speeches (which encourage their products to sell like hot cakes), i still prefer the iPad 2 to the likes of the asus transformer, mostly because of the responsiveness and smoothness. regardless of all the tasteless ads and promo videos, the products are still great and i shouldn't let those factors taint my enjoyment of the product, but as a brand you kinda can't help it.
The sad thing with android generally is that i could purchase an asus transformer, take it home and improve its responsiveness and smoothness by putting a custom operating system (referred to as a rom), which is great, but why can't it ship with a very smooth rom pre installed.
I'd like to think hardware advances with tegra 2 etc would mean that the interface smoothness would improve, but it still isn't quite as nice as the iPad.
I've yet to try ice cream sandwich so I'm unsure as to how much improve the overall experience is with the new tablets. I'd love to see how its improved though, particularly with the quad core tegra 3, should be awesome.
- well, Adobe killed Flash for mobile now.ernexbcn
- That they have ernex. But I'm sure thing would be different if ios devices supported flash.Hombre_Lobo
- formed0
Just to reiterate....YouTube is absolutely worthless on the iPad.
Anyone know why? Is it simple streaming problems or a Google vs. Apple shove match?
Netflix, though, does a simply stellar job of streaming without any problems...at full quality...for a full movie
- i haven't any problems with it, but i do find in browser youtube interface much better.Hombre_Lobo
- craigatkinson0
Hombre_Lobo, what did you decide on in the end? Did you have a good go of the Note 10.1? I'm interested in it compared to the ipad3. I like the stylus option for drawing.
- Hombre_Lobo0
Had a blast on an Ipad 2 today, was fun. Screen was ok, not amazing, but the overall experience was nice.
Having a look at a transformer on Monday, then I will make my decision, exciting times. I saw other tegra 2 tablets (xoom, samsung 10.1 etc), but they were pretty laggy and i hear the transformer is much smoother.
One thing i noticed today browsing QBN on an ipad 2, is that the ipad cant playback gifs at normal speed. wtf is that about? surely it cant take that much processing power. is there a fix?
- oh yea gifs suk on ip'sBattleAxe
- 'internet in your hand' my ass! in fact they were forced to remove that line because of no flash support. hmmHombre_Lobo
- lolplash
- gifs you dirty old man. lol.akrok
- idiots0
if you have any desire to turn this into an instrument or controller for music or MIDI in general maybe live video mixing, stay with the iPad. It has more apps available giving you more options (most all the options) and better support with lower latency transposing these signals to your DAW.
You could always buy refurbished too, it's just an iPad and comes with a warranty so no real loss buying cheaper. Maybe look into used? I bought a 32gb 4th gen iPod Touch for $150 because someone wanted to upgrade to a phone for Christmas, so I know the deals are out there.
- Hombre_Lobo0
^I'm in the UK dude!! but thanks!
Price is £400 everywhere here (£390 some places online), not much of a varied price, but thats kinda common with most apple products.
- $400 US = 298 Euros :)
But they prolly don't have TJ Maxx's out there...fyoucher1
- $400 US = 298 Euros :)
- fyoucher10
Also, you missed out. Yesterday, TJ Maxx was selling iPad 2's for $400 (they only had like 15 per store though)
- Hombre_Lobo0
Hey seeessess :) long time no see!
Thanks for the info dude, that sounds awesome. Buzz player sounds ace, Im doubtful but it would be nice if the ipad 1 can play those files, but going by what others say it appears to lack the horsepower. Maybe ipad 2 makes sense...
Cheers dude!
- no worries :o) It looks like Buzz supports the iPad 1!seeessess
- SHIT THE BED AWESOME! :DHombre_Lobo
- seeessess0
Hey Hombre,
I just got the 2 a few weeks ago, lovely thing. I have my NAS drive set up with all my movies on it. Got Buzz Player HD installed on the iPad to handle the streaming/transcoding. It'll play any format you throw at the iPad from the NAS. Plus, with Buzz, you can stream (or download, and it'll transcode on the fly) from your mac/pc.
- Hombre_Lobo0
Plash, you are awesome. thanks so much for the help dude, really appreciate it.
My final question is, a mate of mind said when he plays some youtube videos (at the highest quality you can on the ipad) they sometimes stutter and some simply refuse to play, have you (or anyone else) noticed this?
Then I will be able to choose!
If i do go ipad, i think ill go ipad 1, its £270 vs £400 and in tests it seems to do everything the ipad 2 does, just a little bit slower.And while apple may make more complex specialized apps for ipad 2, I imagine 99% of new apps will work for ipad 1 too, they wouldn't want to alienate Ipad 1 owners.
Also there doesn't appear to be a jailbreak for ipad 2 (running latest ios) yet.
Thanks everyone else too! :)
- they do alienate , my Iphone 1 cant be upgraded beyond 4.2 and any app after that tells me gfyBattleAxe
- LOL battleaxe, good to know, cheersHombre_Lobo
- plash0
The ipad does play HD movies but the frame rate will drop the longer you use it. (the price of having have a gig ram) (also the larger the resolution the more memory it will need.) 720p is the target for both devices and keep in mind multi tasking (application depended) is big point to take into. The performance will drop on the iOS since the dual core on that ipad is basically split by dividing more than half to the OS.
On the transformer, the android had the foresight to build in native multithreading support called asynchronous tasking (classes). from what i understand all the way back to android 2.3 (gingerbread) they could support up to 8 cores and the ice cream supports 12.this basically allows us to back sample future hardware and still take advantage the newer tech. (i am very impressed with that)
all in all, next year tablets will be mainstream. we got 4 cores by the end of the year. 8 core slated for 2012 and by the end of that year i wouldn't be supervised to see the first 12 core tablet. keep in mind these aren't your i7s but i bet soon enough we'll see the first tablet render farm.
- Hombre_Lobo0
@Plash
You are the wind beneath my wings. Thanks for all that info dude! very useful!
So you have the keyboard too? awesome. It is a consideration as I could get an ipad 2 OR the transformer + keyboard for the same price! Plus you can install ubuntu on the transformer for full desktop functionality!
Have you tried playing hd files on the ipad? Does it deal with them ok?
Thanks again mate, I expect to receive an invoice in my mail :)
- (ubuntu running on an sd card/usb, not installed per say)Hombre_Lobo
- ArmandoEstrada0
get the 2, future proof your purchase as much as possible when apple decides that iOS6 only run on iPad 2 or higher. As far as video, i use AirVideo. Work like a charm even play movies over the internet when I am away. Its $3.
http://www.inmethod.com/air-vide…If you have a AppleTv then u can play to your TV. Loves....
- CALLES0
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- plash0
as for video play back, i have no issues with playing movies in hd. i normally go at 720p (1366×768; 16:9) since that's more than enough for crisp images. also it helps on the size so i can pack more movies per sd card. with the 263mm screen, the image is great for in-flight movie watching. i wouldn't go full 1080p since with the size of the screen you really can't interpolate but im sure it'll do fine; just seems like an overkill. also did i mention it has an miniHDMI out port. so yeah, on top of sending videos to your tv wireless or bluetooth, you can also plug that sucker in. which come in handy with that 8 mega pixel back camera (1.2 mp front). on the prime, i think 5mp on the 101
The interface (android) I love!! like super fucken ace love. i wasn't expecting too much since i really want most of my devices to be transparent. as in i don't want to notice them (not opacity altho that helps) The transformer comes with modified honeycomb os which is interesting and its not too modified, just clocks and desktop items (all aesthetics) which can be turned off or reset to oem. ASUS offers the free ICS update when that is available for tablets. (basically updates itself like apps)
Android is wonderful!! I love being able to fine tune. Im not trashing iOS because it does great too. but coming from a dev side, it's great being able to link into any api.
the response is silk dude and i have loaded desktop widgets that go online for data. im impressed. basically if the widget doesn't load (ie a server timeout) it doesn't hold up the motion, the widget simply displays null. which only happens to my game server b/c those
users are jackasses and like to crash the fucker from time to time.(quick side note. how deep i can connect form the tablet. i can load in real time the chat stream from my minecraft server and even send text/chat to it.)
while we're on apps, yes there are more on the app store but that doesn't really say much since yes there are more fart apps for the ipad.( and the app store has been around longer) in saying that, Android is supported by most devs on the app store. i say most simply because Android is still new but at this point its becoming a standard. i have yet come to the point where i simply cant do something on android. (i have on the ipad) and i am starting to feel that you can connect to any protocol. via xml, http fucken local port .. there is always a way to logon to a server.
I use evernote too, love it. i use trillian (cloud based IM) love it. and google docs (really love it!) gmail is wonderful on the tablet. (get the keyboard is really is worth it)
i love tablets. i really did not know how much i use it until i got my ipad. but that gave me the "tablet" experience. I didn't really know how much i can do on a tablet until i got the transformer. I get less sleep now because of it. too fucken useful.
ok quick list of devices that the transformer has on board. a G-Sensor, Light Sensor, Gyroscope, GPS receiver, 10 point tracking (10 fingers at once.), 2-in-1 Audio Jack (Head Phone / Mic-in) mini HDMI 1.3a port, 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR , Micro SD Card Reader, Internal Microphone and of course Stereo Speaker plus the external keyboard attachment which again is definitely worth the price ($150 here in the states) which add more battery, more inputs and a full keyboard. the sucker comes with everything! (sorry for the long post)
- Hombre_Lobo0
You've put me in quandary plash. A QUANDARY!