How can Creationists argue
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- threadpost0
huh? Try 4.5 billion years old.
- I noticed that too, but I love where this thread is going...I always wanted to see Jesus ride a velocoraptorhargbine
- dbloc0
Home to millions of species, including humans, Earth is the only place in the universe where life is known to exist. The planet formed 4.54 billion years ago, and life appeared on its surface within a billion years. Since then, Earth's biosphere has significantly altered the atmosphere and other abiotic conditions on the planet, enabling the proliferation of aerobic organisms as well as the formation of the ozone layer which, together with Earth's magnetic field, blocks harmful radiation, permitting life on land. The physical properties of the Earth, as well as its geological history and orbit, allowed life to persist during this period. The world is expected to continue supporting life for another 1.5 billion years, after which the rising luminosity of the Sun will eliminate the biosphere.
- we need to start building escape ships..ribit
- Frankly, this is the mutherfuggin quote of the day!duckofrubber
- ukit0
"discipler" will appear in 10, 9, 8...
- dbloc0
brush up...
- janne760
ukit just gave birth to a new 4chan meme...
- Scotch_Roman0
If God exists, and if he is who he says he is, and if he is therefore omnipotent and capable of creating universes ex nihilo, then who really gives a shit whether the earth was created in 7 days or 7 billion years? It's not an argument that I find particularly interesting, to be honest.
About archaeology and dating however, one thing I'll say in favor of Young Earth Creationism (YEC) is that carbon dating, which is used for most archaeological dating systems, is very unreliable and can yield inconsistent results if one tests the same material under the same circumstances at different times.
And that's about the extent of my archaeological knowledge.
- could you say that in Aramaic?nilsnihil
- God is hidingMimio
- you know, there is more than 1 dating method and carbon dating isnt used for the age of the earth.October
- Carbon dating is very accurate but it's not used for the dating the Earth or anything beyond 55-65k years old.Mimio
- "carbon dating, which is used for most archaeological dating systems, is very unreliable " ... * smacks forehead. *flavorful
- * repeatedly smacks forehead. *flavorful
- * still smacking forehead. *flavorful
- I stand by it. I'm no archaeologist, but I know at least that carbon dating yields shaky results.Scotch_Roman
- Carbon dating isn't the only way of dating something quite old, there's www.match.com too!vaxorcist
- duckofrubber0
earth is god's photochop.
- God's PSB with Satan more likeukit
- I hate the term "photochop"Scotch_Roman
- Oh and hi there duck :)Scotch_Roman
- Oh yeah, I hate photochop, but for some reason it worked in this particular sentence.duckofrubber
- visionary0
God put the art on cave walls just to fuck with us.
- lazerbass0
"creationism" is such an abstracted politicized narrow pointless discussion in religion and not the point at all about the reality and truth within the best religious views and life styles. Jesus didn't talk about creationism, Buddha didn't talk about creationism, Muhammad didn't talk about creationism Krishna didn't, the only people who do are fundies and 18th C. vatican officials and retards on the internet.
- Lets not forget a large majority of contemporary protestants, they like to harp on it too...NONEIS
- ChankD0
I think lazerbass has it right for the most part. If you investigate the origins and ideas of creationism you'll find them soaked in power and politics.
- ukit0
Well, in fairness, the Bible does describe God "creating" everything in pretty specific detail. World in 7 days, Adam and Eve, etc etc.
I don't see a way that the Bible is compatible with evolution if you are intellectually honest about it.
- its no way as literal as some people make it and the bible is only a fraction of the entire religious world anywaylazerbass
- Well, fine, it's in the same league as The Odyssey amd other ancient pieces of literature.ukit
- I promise you, it was taken VERY literally at one point, and you would have been hanged for saying otherwise.NONEIS
- the problem is some do take it literally and they are pushing that on everyone else.October
- if God is God, then, he might not be necessarily bound by time or physicsa_iver
- Nowhere near the same league as the Odyssey. The Bible contains history as well as parables and poetry.Scotch_Roman
- The Odyssey is pure myth.Scotch_Roman
- randommail0
God is an alien.
Our earth is an ant-farm.- I think we are closer to dust particles, but right track - right track.NONEIS
- NONEIS0
The whole non-literal interpretation thing is what really makes ME wonder. As if it's not a direct response to the hard evidence available, it's grasping for straws, and reforming of concept to fit reality. The world was once flat, and you would have been called a heretic for believing otherwise, the non-literal interpretations are a result of contemporary thinking. I promise you, the 7 days thing was FACT to a majority of Christians before science kicked in.
- I'm interested in reading up on this—what's the source for your last claim?ChankD
- Research the meaning of the word "yom" as it was used in the Old Testament, early Christians were Jews that believed in Jesus.NONEIS
- Research the meaning of the word "yom" as it was used in the Old Testament, early Christians were Jews that believed in Jesus.NONEIS
- Jesus, sorry for the double post, QBN freaked on me.NONEIS
- ukit0
Kind of like how the Mormon leader received a "message from God" in the late 70s telling them it was now OK to treat non-whites equally.
Or, as they put it, "the curse" was removed from black people by God because he had forgiven them.
What a crock of shit. The same people who pretend that their (completely arbitrary) moral laws come from God will easily do a 180 on those views as soon as they become unacceptable in society.
- October0
^
pretty much the same formula for any religion except theres no way to verify claims of messages from a god that happened 2-4 thousand years ago.