How can Creationists argue
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- oey0
- inteliboy0
http://www.creationism.org/topba…
This site is riddled with so many flaws of logic and contradictions that it's absolutely infuriating. Either that or it's a genius work of comedy.
- _niko0
we are specks of dust living on a speck of dust orbiting an unremarkable star in an unremarkable galaxy amongst billions of others. We've been here for only a blink of an eye, so how can we pretend, one way or another, to say we know the secrets of life or the universe?
- sounds very hitchhikers guide loltrooperbill
- sounds rationalmonospaced
- ArsenicPants0
who cares lol
- jazzman1210
BOBKAT,
If one doesn't believe in God, then you have to assume, the Bible, Quran etc. all religious books are fictitious. we cannot use any thing those books say in this discussion. I am not even arguing the bible is right or wrong, im not even saying any religion is right or wrong, we are just talking about a creator. I am not trying to disrespect anyones beliefs. When one dismisses an argument without thinking through it with an open mind, they are robbing themselves of the truth. Religious people do this all the time. Because they are so stuck in what they believe or they let their emotions define what they believe, instead of basing their emotions on what they believe. People who don't believe in God sometimes act just like religious people when they don't evaluate from an objective perspective. All I am saying is look at all arguments from a non emotional clear mind and then make a evaluation of what you believe.
MONOSPACED
I believe religion screws up morality all the time. I love the fact that you brought up your dog. which lines up with what im talking about. Why does an animal like a Dog who has a different brain structure as a human being still categorize acts as "GOOD" or "BAD" acts? the dog has never known religion, I am not talking about WHAT is or Good or bad im just saying the act of SEPARATING and categorizing acts into GOOD and BAD. Why does your Dog and your mind do the something?If for example lets assume in a universe where there is not a higher being or definer of morality. We are all different individual beings, my mind might seperate an act 'A' as a good act but your mind might categorize that act 'B' as a bad act. but we both are categorizing it, why are we doing that... thats what im trying to get us to think about. I followed the rabit hole that there isnt a God and i ended up with question. Why does all living beings that think categorize everything into Good acts and Bad acts, why is there a common need to do that? thats all I am asking you to think about. We dont need a bible or a religion to tell us there is an abosolute common definition of what is Good and Bad its in animals in all people. that to me tells me there is a higher being.
I have always thought christians are hypocrites, all people do that anybody that lies is a hypocrite and i dont know anyone that doesnt lie. or i dont know anyone that isnt a hypocrite , show me someone who says they are not a hypocrite and they are being a hypocrite by saying they arnt one haha...
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- We do it because of survival and the evolution of ourselves as a social species. All social animals must do this.monospaced
- And to think I'll end up at "God makes it so" is just insane. I can't argue with you, it's impossible.monospaced
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- jazzman1210
Naygon, Sam Harris says morality comes from the need to not hurt another being, but he needs to go back a step further why is it wrong to hurt another being? where does that idea come from? why is hurting another being wrong? if there is no higher being he wouldnt have the need to define the fact that hurting a being is 'wrong' its just an act thats neither wrong nor right.
- see below, no higher being required.. the more you argue the more of an absolute dumbshit you come off asmonospaced
- That concept of wrong comes from a little something called empathy.cannonball1978
- monospaced0
As social species evolved, it became more and more necessary to depend on each other. This includes us and other animals, like dogs, that work and live in groups or packs. The only way a group can succeed is with a hierarchy and an understanding of what and what is not tolerated. Killing your neighbor is bad for not just your neighbor, but for you, as you have just upset the group dynamic. We literally evolved to define good and bad as it pertains to our individual groups. This, in essence, is why different groups have different definitions. At no point was a higher being involved, it's simple and straight sociological facts of social evolution of species. Done.
- trooperbill0
they believe god put it there and made it older
- lowimpakt0
creationists are the least evolved humans.
- cannonball19780
Here's what I can't stand about this argument, and it has nothing to do with if there is a god or not:
IF IN FACT THE WORLD WAS CREATED by a being... why does it have to be a god-like being?
The simple fact that religious people cant disentangle the concept of the world being created and the concept of a supreme being illustrates their stupidity.