Protests in Tehran Iran
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- ok_not_ok0
- if that's hot, I don't want to see ugly.Jnr_Madison
- hahacreez
- cupidrayborn3000
- GeorgesII0
watch this
- sublocked0
- Techno Iranian Viking?Jnr_Madison
- someone plz photoshop techno viking into the 2nd pic.sublocked
- ukit0
- TheBlueOne0
"Khomeini left the seeds for this conflict buried in the Iranian constitution. There is a president and there is a parliament, the Majlis, both subject to popular vote. The president is the supposed head of government. But there is also an Assembly of Experts composed of dozens of the leading Shi’ite ayatollahs and clerics in Iran, and this group appoints themselves from among Iran’s major Islamic schools. This body elects the Supreme Jurisprudent, the most revered of all religious figures in Iran, a successor to Ayatollah Khomeini and in that sense the embodiment of the continuing revolution of 1979.
The Supreme Jurisprudent has direct constitutional control of the military, of the domestic paramilitary (the Revolutionary Guards), the police, and the judiciary. Once selected by the Assembly of Experts, he manages this organization, plus two other constitutional bodies. One is the Guardians Council, which must approve all legislation that emerges from the Majlis, and which vets and approves all candidates running for public office. The second is the Expediency Council, which arbitrates any legislative disputes that emerge in the Majlis.
In short, power resides with religious clerics and their bureaucrats, none of whom is popularly voted into office. This is the fundamental crisis, or flaw, in the Iranian constitution, which desperately seeks legitimacy through public voting, but which time and again has shown itself willing to overthrow the popular vote if any real threat emerges to theocratic rule. "
- how did they get in power?
another pussyfooter hereGeorgesII - You're kidding, right?TheBlueOne
- Georgesll, sometimes you gotta get off that high horse of yours...TheBlueOne
- ..the young Iranians aren't blaming the US anymore, why are you?TheBlueOne
- I bet in 50 years the remaining young irakis won't blame the US too, not because they've forgiven them but becauseGeorgesII
- an entire generation would have been lost , doesn't mean they forgot, btw who said they don't blame you anymore? cnnGeorgesII
- Personally, I still haven't forgiven Italy for siding with the Nazis in WWIIukit
- Once again, you misread history as it happens in front of your eyes, GeorgesllTheBlueOne
- how did they get in power?
- GeorgesII0
^
ukit are you blind or are you pussyfooting around the obvious reasons why they went from having women nuclear physicist to this.
- ukit0
Well here is the Iranian perspective on it
- Ranger0
They had a huge turnout, 80%. You get huge turnouts when you want to change the government. You don't get 80% turnout resulting in over 60% vote to keep the current president.
The whole system is ridiculous, all the candidates are decided by the guardian council anyway, so they are not going to allow anyone who wants to change the system through.
- <- this man knows WTF, it's rare to get huge turnouts in reelectionsernexbcn
- GeorgesII0
they definitively have more balls then most of us living in "developed" countries, I just hope it won't turn into a blood bath
- ukit0
Tens of thousands rally in defiance of Ahmadinejad.
- Good for them. And hey Georgesll, I don't see any of these fellows burning American flags. Just the hardliners....TheBlueOne
- ..so, you're aligned with the Iranian hardliners who use America as a scapegoat to whip up hate.TheBlueOne
- And b4 you go into details I am well aware of US govt sins against the Iranian people, but time to move on.TheBlueOne
- ukit0
http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/b…
Robert Tait, the Guardian's former Tehran correspondent, has been poring over leaked reports of the official results, allegedly leaked by disaffected officials.
He and our diplomatic editor Julian Borger write: "The figures have been accompanied by claims from interior ministry sources that fake statistics were fed into a software program and then distributed to vote counts among polling stations to produce a plausible outcome. The same sources have also claimed that the interior ministry's statements announcing the results were prepared before Friday night's count."
Such claims are being reported on websites that Iran is frantically trying to block
- _niko0
The US set a precedent. Now every tyrannical ruler can rig elections and give the world a big "FUCK YOU"
thanks Bushy.- please.zenmasterfoo
- Yeah, elections were never rigged before Bush...DrBombay
- I'm glad you needed our permissionukit
- Yeah but the US can't take the moral high ground like they used to._niko
- and they'll have a harder time forcing "democracy" down the throats of nations._niko
- The US never really could, that is all made up horse shit. They sponsored a coup in Iran decades ago.DrBombay
- and everywhere else, it's just that everyone can call bullshit on their foreign policy much easier now._niko
- They always could.DrBombay
- ok, great let's stand for theocratic demagoguery. Better yet facism. Great idea _niko.zenmasterfoo
- the word is "fascism" for fuck's sake. Don't use it if you can't spell it.DrBombay
- zenmaster it's about practicing what you preach._niko
- GeorgesII0
for TBO,
you should never wish for a revolution in a country of 70millions, because things can get out of hand really easily and end up in a major bloodbath,
btw, is the number of american flag burned the way you see if a country is pro or con US?
seriously, I'm having some problem siding with either parties right now because I tried to get some serious informations and could not understand on what platform they are both running, Moussavi is also against Israel so what will be the real change?the thing that scares me right now is that almadinejahd knows he has the entire world looking at him and he can either decide to go down on protesters the hard way or just let them vent until they get tired, either way it will go nowhere,
if, he decides to slam the shit out of them, then we have a problem, because the UN will decide if they need to intervene, proclam another empty resolution and try to curb the public opinion of UN countries to send troops.
I'm 100% sure the votes were rigged but I don't want another middle east country go up in flames, because when fraud happens in so called democracy the dissenters are shut down, forgotten and not a single msm outlet dares to comments. why should we do it for others then?
- almadinejahd can't decide anything. He's a puppet. The UN won't intervene.TheBlueOne
- ..and I have faith in this new young generation of Iranians. They represent a sea change in Iranian politics...TheBlueOne
- ukit0
^ If you are interested in what the actual difference between them is, you might find this interesting...
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2…
Ahmadinejad vs. Mousavi debate with English subtitles
- _niko0
Persians on a whole seem very progressive and western, more so than other middle eastern nations. It seems that a revolution is imminent to overthrow the Ayatollahs or greatly reduce their power and influence.
- easier said than done obviously._niko
- This isn't a rare event in Iran's political history.zenmasterfoo
- Two thirds of the population is under 30ukit