Pirate Bay Trial
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- winnie_the_shit0
lukusW, I know where you're coming from.. but you're trying to legitimize piracy.. which is an oxymoron.
ukit.. Exactly..
This whole piracy parade has nothing to do with the money being lost.. it is companies trying to control the means of production and distribution, so they can further build their business on-top of it.
They tried and died with their first attempt. Digital Rights Management.
DRM is like making each CD player a different shape so that you had to buy a specific shape disc for each player you own. It's fucking stupid.Everyone now has the means of production.
Basically, you might as well go back and sue whoever invented the concept of a "file" and a "copy/paste".
DYK, On a CD, the information needs to be read and buffered in order for the DAC to turn it into a waveform. A copy, in part, must be made even to playback? An mp3 that is sold, still needs to get copied to memory in order to be played.
If the playback mediums themselves inherently make copies.. then how is the end consumer not allowed to make copies?
The difference is.. they control it.
- shinpo0
Guys I am sorry I must apologize because I am guilty of piracy.
When I was in middle school I used to press the record button on my radio when I heard a song that I liked come on then pressed stop when the commercials came on so I would just have the songs.
When I was in high school I used to record my favorite tv shows and movies with my VCR and hit the pause button so I didn't record the commercials as well. I feel so guilty for wanting to watch something later that came on my tv already.
When I was in college I used a digital recorder and taped my professors voice giving lectures and points of views that he had given in his books. Then I did the unthinkable and shared them with my classmates even though they were not present at the lecture.
I am so ashamed at myself and I hope that I won't get arrested and or sued for these grievances.
- winnie_the_shit0
See, isn't it confusing? Why LET you record off the radio if it's illegal?
You have tape recorders built into radios.. and each and every radio it is illegal to copy from.That's what I mean. Piracy is FACT.
FACT! FACT! FACT!
<stomps, jumping up and down on a couch tom cruise style>it's going to happen and there is NOTHING you can do about it.. in fact.. it's supported, ubiquitously.
- KwesiJ0
the reason why this issue seems so confusing a hypocritical is that it is. I'm simply not of the opinion that these lawsuits have anything to do with 'piracy' as we know it and neither are PB. Even the lawyers and organizations behind them know deep down this is about circumventing and influencing internaitonal laws in the name of big business. Its anti-competitive and imperial in so many ways and thats only a part of it. So don't confuse yourselves with copyright.
- shinpo0
^By God KwesiJ - I do believe you hit the nail on the head. See The Pirate Bay was originally based out of Sweeden which have no copyright laws. After their first bust about 5 years ago they decided to move their servers all around the world. So how the heck can lawyers from our country sue individuals from another country in a country that has no copyright laws????????? Thank you for your input KwesiJ.
- KwesiJ0
and of coarse they will sue and continue to find reasons to sue people all over the place. It's the same deal in Canada with the conservatives trying to pass thier new copyright legislation that was essentially drafted by Disney and MGM etc without any Canadian input, these companies can seep their way into everyone's bisness through this issue.
- and no doubt they're pressuring swedens politicians as well these days.KwesiJ
- PonyBoy0
As a designer... when I design a logo - I usually try to NAIL my client's services / intentions in one fell visual swoop...
... and I have to ask myself what the designer of The Pirate Bay's logo must of been thinking using a cassette tape in place of the skull (skull and crossbones if you don't 'get it'... but I know you do)... oh - and it's placed on the sail of a FUCKING A PIRATE SHIP...
... these guys are more than likely up shit's creek - and rightly so... their intentions are clear in their branding (at least from this 'designers' viewpoint).
:)
- you know where it came from right? http://en.wikipedia.…danthon
- Maybe they just like pirates:)ukit
- yeah... but it makes no sense to use it w/the term 'pirate bay'... it's like a 'fuck you' to the movement AGAINST piratingPonyBoy
- a hilarious fuck you at thatdanthon
- i agree... it's clever.. :)
I'm not hating on them either - just weighing the facts and being intellectually honest aboutPonyBoy - what the outcome is more than likely to be.PonyBoy
- winnie_the_shit0
Right, like KwesiJ says.
It's about control. and has fuck all to do with piracy.
- imakethepictures0
I'm hoping that eventually artists will be paid what they're worth: a fair wage, no more, no less. I think that will result in better music.
In other words, if creating cookie-cutter, teeny-bopper pop music is no longer a shortcut to becoming stinking-filthy-rich, then maybe in a few years all that will remain are people creating music for the love of the art and not the bling.
Apologies for the over-use of the hy-phen.
- KwesiJ0
there's still plenty of ways to make money being a muscian, more so. Thats a point many people are missing. The business is CHANGING (hopefully for the better) not disintegrating.
- lukusW0
KwesiJ ^^ exactly - we need new economic models and ways of doing business... intellectual property can't be sold like material goods. It just isn't practical or feasible.
Money can still be made - just not in the traditional (hierarchical way). However the music/film corps desperately want the old hierarchical model to be preserved, simply because they benefited most from it.
- 300,000 poetry blogs. Can you name one? Media empires make stars that sell.nilsnihil
- Gucci0
wtf is going on with the pirate bay, man?
- Gucci0
"On 2 March 2009, the website was taken down by a coordinated DDoS attack. This was achieved through the hijacking of rogue botnets, and is purported to be the work of the IFPI.[54]"
- fiesta0
who the hell has used pirate bay in the last 2 years?
- thelukeandrews0
me. it's great!! mininova's too crowded with crap.
Yeah my heart really doesn't bleed when brad pitt or madonna's royalties get a few cents shaved off them because we're "stealing" them.
That said, if people were accessing and sharing MY design work, I'd be pretty darnn unhappy about it. but then again if i was a millionaire I probably woudn't give a rat's.
- I feel the opposite. Pirate Bay never has what I am searching for.juhls
- moth0
I hear they're up for 12 months in jail.
- moth0
- roundabout0
I love Pirate Bay, it help me create my own TV station and let me watch what I want to watch, when I want to watch it.
- I can hardly bare to watch TV because of ads alone now. Between shows is ok. DURING shows just ruins the show!kalkal