Pirate Bay Trial
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- shinpo0
Guys I am sorry I must apologize because I am guilty of piracy.
When I was in middle school I used to press the record button on my radio when I heard a song that I liked come on then pressed stop when the commercials came on so I would just have the songs.
When I was in high school I used to record my favorite tv shows and movies with my VCR and hit the pause button so I didn't record the commercials as well. I feel so guilty for wanting to watch something later that came on my tv already.
When I was in college I used a digital recorder and taped my professors voice giving lectures and points of views that he had given in his books. Then I did the unthinkable and shared them with my classmates even though they were not present at the lecture.
I am so ashamed at myself and I hope that I won't get arrested and or sued for these grievances.
- Anders0
"They are fighting tooth-and-nail to bring back the good old days, where there was a hard division into approved senders and passive consumer receivers, where the approved senders would compete for the wallet of the consumers. Essentially, they are trying to turn the internet into a cable TV network"
—Rick Falkvinge, the leader of the anti-copyright Pirate Party.
- it's a truly bollock-ridden statement. by non-approved senders they mean free.airey
- JOSF0
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/techn…
"Half of the charges levelled at the founders of the Pirate Bay file-sharing site have been dropped.
Prosecutors dropped charges relating to "assisting copyright infringement" leaving the lesser charges of "assisting making available copyright material" on day two of the trial.
Pirate Bay co-founder Frederik Neik said it showed prosecutors had misunderstood the technology.
The music industry played down the changes as "simplifying the charges". "
- thelukeandrews0
me. it's great!! mininova's too crowded with crap.
Yeah my heart really doesn't bleed when brad pitt or madonna's royalties get a few cents shaved off them because we're "stealing" them.
That said, if people were accessing and sharing MY design work, I'd be pretty darnn unhappy about it. but then again if i was a millionaire I probably woudn't give a rat's.
- I feel the opposite. Pirate Bay never has what I am searching for.juhls
- winnie_the_shit0
See, isn't it confusing? Why LET you record off the radio if it's illegal?
You have tape recorders built into radios.. and each and every radio it is illegal to copy from.That's what I mean. Piracy is FACT.
FACT! FACT! FACT!
<stomps, jumping up and down on a couch tom cruise style>it's going to happen and there is NOTHING you can do about it.. in fact.. it's supported, ubiquitously.
- moth0
I hear they're up for 12 months in jail.
- lukusW0
KwesiJ ^^ exactly - we need new economic models and ways of doing business... intellectual property can't be sold like material goods. It just isn't practical or feasible.
Money can still be made - just not in the traditional (hierarchical way). However the music/film corps desperately want the old hierarchical model to be preserved, simply because they benefited most from it.
- 300,000 poetry blogs. Can you name one? Media empires make stars that sell.nilsnihil
- moth0
- PonyBoy0
not sure how i feel about this... one minute i'm all for watching a free movie... the next minute is see a RIP thread and some designer is upset their work got snaked by some 2bit dipshit...
... i'm so torn.
- moth0
"I say let the people download whatever they want for free since they have no alternative."
There's plenty of alternatives. You speak nonsense.
- KwesiJ0
the reason why this issue seems so confusing a hypocritical is that it is. I'm simply not of the opinion that these lawsuits have anything to do with 'piracy' as we know it and neither are PB. Even the lawyers and organizations behind them know deep down this is about circumventing and influencing internaitonal laws in the name of big business. Its anti-competitive and imperial in so many ways and thats only a part of it. So don't confuse yourselves with copyright.
- shinpo0
^By God KwesiJ - I do believe you hit the nail on the head. See The Pirate Bay was originally based out of Sweeden which have no copyright laws. After their first bust about 5 years ago they decided to move their servers all around the world. So how the heck can lawyers from our country sue individuals from another country in a country that has no copyright laws????????? Thank you for your input KwesiJ.
- KwesiJ0
^^Because the old school entertainment companies are so damn stubborn to adopt new technology and business models for the sake of their massive rights holdings and diminishing consumer choice/rights. they're behind but I'd garuntee they have plans for p2p and 'free' content.
- this trial will be fun, i'll be looking for frequent updatesKwesiJ
- roundabout0
I love Pirate Bay, it help me create my own TV station and let me watch what I want to watch, when I want to watch it.
- I can hardly bare to watch TV because of ads alone now. Between shows is ok. DURING shows just ruins the show!kalkal
- KwesiJ0
and of coarse they will sue and continue to find reasons to sue people all over the place. It's the same deal in Canada with the conservatives trying to pass thier new copyright legislation that was essentially drafted by Disney and MGM etc without any Canadian input, these companies can seep their way into everyone's bisness through this issue.
- and no doubt they're pressuring swedens politicians as well these days.KwesiJ
- kelpie0
^ well that seems right and fair legally, as they don't provide ripping tools, just a network to distribute ripped goods.
This culture is giving the majors license to resist attempts to update to a model which in some ways may cost them, but will provide a much better 100% digital service that people want these days. That's what gets my goat about places like the pirate bay.
A pal of mine was helping project manage that legal P2P thing that Virgin was going to do and it was kiboshed due to protectionism on the part of the labels, but they are able to take this in-a-corner stance because piracy gives them justification. Unfortunately for them, that stance will eventually see them fuck up massively and only get on the bandwagon once others have come in with new models and cemented their ground there. I'm not sorry about that, at the very least some clever forward thinking people will be selling things to desperate record labels for a lot of money soon, and more power to them (mike ;)
- PonyBoy0
As a designer... when I design a logo - I usually try to NAIL my client's services / intentions in one fell visual swoop...
... and I have to ask myself what the designer of The Pirate Bay's logo must of been thinking using a cassette tape in place of the skull (skull and crossbones if you don't 'get it'... but I know you do)... oh - and it's placed on the sail of a FUCKING A PIRATE SHIP...
... these guys are more than likely up shit's creek - and rightly so... their intentions are clear in their branding (at least from this 'designers' viewpoint).
:)
- you know where it came from right? http://en.wikipedia.…danthon
- Maybe they just like pirates:)ukit
- yeah... but it makes no sense to use it w/the term 'pirate bay'... it's like a 'fuck you' to the movement AGAINST piratingPonyBoy
- a hilarious fuck you at thatdanthon
- i agree... it's clever.. :)
I'm not hating on them either - just weighing the facts and being intellectually honest aboutPonyBoy - what the outcome is more than likely to be.PonyBoy
- lukusW0
We're moving from an economic system based upon scarcity, to an economic system which I believe should be based around the provision of services. E.g. in my opinion, we shouldn't pay for the film -> we should pay for the system that gets the film to us.
I can't see how it's possible to use intellectual property as a cash cow - producing perpetual financial gain - without our financial systems turning to shit. Even if it is possible, I don't think it's fair to expect unlimited returns from a finite amount of effort and time.
- moth0
In my mind, the worst case scenario will be a tax at an ISP level - and you'll only have the file-sharing networks to blame for that.
The problem with it? The end-game is essentially is a two tier internet. Those who can afford it, and those who can't. Everyone will want a slice of ISP tax.