Pirate Bay Trial
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- lukusW0
.. if artists get most of their money from radio play and gigging... isn't that all the more reason to pirate music?
- Gucci0
wtf is going on with the pirate bay, man?
- ukit0
^ So true Point5, I remember in the late 90s record companies/ record stores were actually raising their prices on CDs to something like $18-20. Totally fucking ridiculous, especially when you only wanted one song on the album and the rest were crap. It was pure greed.
What I find so funny about this is that you hear big corporations make the argument all the time about globalisation and outsourcing - "well, you can't hold back progress." Now you see that there is a flip side to capitalism, which is that when technological progress hurts the big companies, suddenly they want to try to stuff the genie back into the bottle, but they can't do it.
- * imagines stuffing the Alladin genie back into bottle.imakethepictures
- juhls0
Hydra effect is still in motion. Another one will pop up soon.
- juhls0
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- juhls0
The Pirate Bay Sold For $7.8 Million
- JOSF0
Guess that's the end of illegal file sharing on the internet.
- raf0
I read a good article (can't find the link now) saying that already all music downloads are donationware. Some people just don't notice it.
It is your choice whether you get it via iTunes, Peoplesmusicstore Amazon or download it for free. If you choose to download legally, you are making a donation. You would've gotten it for free just as easily, but you decided to be fair and pay.
An irritating angle, but a sober one.The model is changing, no idea where it leads to though.
I remember when Apple announced last year they'd be getting 30% off AppStore sales (iPhone apps), the developer would get 70%. Some people said Apple were cheeky to rip such a big chunk.
Actually, compared to the music industry it is surprisingly generous.
I hear it's the same 70/30 for iTunes downloads, only record companies get 85% of that 70%.
- moth0
Rapidshare wont get taken down because it does not advocate illegal content, and WILL take down files that are reported.
Pirate Bay, by very definition, is where you go to find pirated material. That is the whole purpose of it's existence, and zero effort is put into removing "illegal" content. You might as well call it "theplacewhereyoucanstealmusican... - it's that abundantly clear what the site does - and denying this is like burying your head in the sand and it makes you look fucking stupid too.
- shinpo0
Here is a site that has 2 documentaries on p2p sharing and have some great information on it from both sides of the coin. It has been copyrighted by the owner and available to download so that you may actually steal the film.
http://www.stealthisfilm.com/Par…
Both 1 and 2 are good, but the 2nd is better. The first mostly deals with the, "Pirate Bay" and the other with infringement and intellectual property. Check it out.
Most of the people here agree that most CEOs salaries are way to high plus top it off with huge bonuses and would probably all agree that it is wrong on some scale. Why does this not apply Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Dave Matthews, Tim Burton and etc, etc? Those guys get paid hundreds of millions of dollars as well, but no one complains about that. We just don't want the automotive CEOs or the oil industry CEOs making that much money, but artists can make an obscene amounts and no one says a thing.
If one rule applies to one set of money makers it should apply to all. With that being said I believe that big name actors, directors, producers, and artists could take a pay cut.
Really it just boils down to the industry being behind the times. I personally belong to sites that have monthly memberships that allow me watch and listen to anything I want whenever I want. I can't download them, but I don't care as much about having it as I do about seeing or hearing it. This could be the ground that the industry could stand on. Until then - I say let the people download whatever they want for free since they have no alternative.
- moth0
"film/music business is way behind"
Because they don't give away their products? Because you simply *can not* purchase the new Coldplay album legally online? Or because you heard someone else say this and thought it was clever?
- dontsueme0
That's like saying we should put Al Gore in jail for inventing the internet, because it is his fault that people look at kiddy porn.
I fucking hate people sometimes.
Strike that, most of the time.
- You can't defend this case. It's called the "pirate bay". It's pretty self explanatory really.moth
- Not really. Your logic is fail.dontsueme
- Because you're 12?moth
- What did you think they do? Rent port space to Pirates?moth
- dontsueme's does have a bit of a point, though convoluted at best.dMullins
- it's a reach is what it is.airey
- winnie_the_shit0
lukusW, I know where you're coming from.. but you're trying to legitimize piracy.. which is an oxymoron.
ukit.. Exactly..
This whole piracy parade has nothing to do with the money being lost.. it is companies trying to control the means of production and distribution, so they can further build their business on-top of it.
They tried and died with their first attempt. Digital Rights Management.
DRM is like making each CD player a different shape so that you had to buy a specific shape disc for each player you own. It's fucking stupid.Everyone now has the means of production.
Basically, you might as well go back and sue whoever invented the concept of a "file" and a "copy/paste".
DYK, On a CD, the information needs to be read and buffered in order for the DAC to turn it into a waveform. A copy, in part, must be made even to playback? An mp3 that is sold, still needs to get copied to memory in order to be played.
If the playback mediums themselves inherently make copies.. then how is the end consumer not allowed to make copies?
The difference is.. they control it.
- honest0
I don't see Warner Bros kicking the door down at kiddy parties when people sing the Happy Birthday song!?!
- fiesta0
who the hell has used pirate bay in the last 2 years?
- uberdesigner0
they got shafted