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- epill0
i understand your point for a heavy set for 8 reps, but how much is needed for doing push-ups, is there a certain position to place your hands with? i generally do close handed diamonds in reps of 20, 2 times with 3 minute rests then move my hands to the width of my chest and manage 12 reps 2 times and then rest for 4 minutes then do 5 reps of with my hands at shoulder widh or wider.
since i am used to doing heavy reps [for me at least] of diamonds, i keep the direction of my wrists and fingers in the same diamond position and i have seen a different use of muslces and growth i never seen before.
is a gym needed for me or is this routine enough to gain tone, or is there not enough variation for muslces to change?
- free weights and a varirty of machines will make all the differenceutopian
- drgss0
Yo can elevate your legs, on a chair for example, to make pushups harder. Close handed pushups are heavier because they strain your triceps more
But pushups do not train your biceps and back, so you should have some kind of exercise for them. Maybe a bar which you can install in your home, so that you can do chin ups. Then you at least have a covered the most basic muscle groups
- ...most basic muscle groups in you upper bodydrgss
- ill try that. does spreading your legs increase strain on push-ups?
or only elevating them?epill - I think spreading legs does the oppositedrgss
- I just tried pushups with spread legs. it really hurt my lower back and not in a "wow, thats working wonders" waykalkal
- In a "thats gonna put you out of service for a while" kind of waykalkal
- ahh thanks for the try-out demo.
its true it is the opposite.epill
- epill0
i notice when i do push-ups that sometimes its my chest over my triceps working the reps, is this because of the direction i have my elbows facing? should push-ups be generally focused on triceps or is both the general direction it should take?
- drgss0
Usually the forearms get their enough exercise through general arm training, like when training biceps, so I never think about them.
Pushups involve the front part of your shoulders, but not the on the sides. Not sure what upper shoulders mean...
But I can't think of any exercise to train forearms if you don't have dumbbells and the rest of shoulders, although chinups, which I already mentioned, would be good for your grip
- epill0
chin-ups and pull-ups or just one of the 2 or both? also in the past when ive done these, it was difficult the maintain the reps in comparison to the amounts of push-ups i could do... is this because the muscles being used i generally dont or didnt develop yet or is it generally hard for everyone?
- epill0
thanks for this discussion!!
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- Horp0
Okay Drgss, so we'll say you're all about nationalism and borders and not mixing the colours up, and keeping community and culture pure. That's fair enough then, but let me ask you three questions...
1. You've seen my Jewy face, so if you had the chance to relocate people, what country would you send me to?
2. If you look at the folk art from your country's past, the Norwegian race was dark haired, with long faces and long european noses. You have a very flat, slavic face, which itself is indicitative of a partly mongol ancestry from the east. In spite of fitting in with the generalised 'blond hair, blue eyed' misconception, you are clearly not of heritage stock for your people, so where will you live in an ideal world?
3. You host a website, in Norway, a Norwegian website, and yet the holding page depicts your name in a letterform that is clearly an attempt at a tag/throw-up... that is a cultural style that emerged from the hispanic/chicano ghettos of America. Why are you flirting with such an obviously mongrel and non Norwegian cultural style?
- epill0
one last question towards push-ups.
is it better for certain muscles if the palms of the hands are elevated with the usage of blocks to allow the chest to sink lower in the downward direction as the back and shoulders are being more used?
or should one stop before lowering into that drop and then rise again?
- its actually a few questions with-in a few questions...epill
- It is better! The more the muscle is stretched along the movement path, the more you get out from the exercisedrgss
- Btw, you can try doing lowered pushups slowly, in controlled manner. This is sometimes used todrgss
- compensate for low work load. Sinking slowly and pushing yourself up again, very intensedrgss
- ill try that in tomorrows routine.
and add it going fwd.
thanks.epill
- epill0
only one question with some others... just advice really...
thanks when it happens...now its like... http://edd-e.com/_oldfmt/dust_in…
- drgss0
1. I don't know... Judaism is first of all a religion, this is written in Talmud.
If you take offense in me calling your face jewy, the one who perceives jewiness as something negative is you. Even worse if you in fact are part jewish and are somehow ashamed of your heritage2. ? That is because I am slavic -- never said I was anything else. I studied at NTNU for some time, and now working as a programmer here. In fact I only became nationalist after coming to Norway... or what seemed to me was left of it.
Nationalism revolves around the concept of ethnicity, not on any concept of races or sub-races. Since you brought it up, and keep imposing that image of aryan race worshipper on me, I could mention my racial classification is Baltid/Dinarid.
I may be highcheek-boned, which indicates traces of some archaic Upper Paleolithic form, not necessary any mongol ancestry. If you want to learn more about "mongol ancestry" (yeah that doesn't sound racist at all) from the east in slavic populations, I can point you to some genetic studies which disprove this claim.3.
- Hahaha, Good answer, I was just seeing if you would object to the assumptions about your genetic make-upHorp
- For reference I am neither Jewish nor offended by the term 'Jewy' when applied to me.Horp
- South italian then?drgss
- As pure english as its possible to be given we are essentially a mongrel nation. I have a long thin nose...Horp
- ... , not a 'Jewish' shaped nose, but small lenses distort, ya know? I often get mistaken as Jewish.Horp
- England is lost, it is a cadaver, whose last bones are being eaten by the yoke of liberalism
http://www.express.c…
drgss - "The Sunday Express" Hahaha, another paper will tell you how they are all returning in greater numbers. Our press is our own worst enemy.Horp
- worse enemy.Horp
- http://news.bbc.co.u…drgss
- Horp0
^ But you didn't answer number 3 Drgss.
What's with the piss poor train tag on your website??? Cultural arguements aside, its fucking terrible, lol.
- epill0
...oh so what, now you guys are friends!??!
[you two had the promisings of becomes the next kOna vs. dobs]
i enjoyed our talks... and i like the term jewy. i am jewy.
peace! or not!
:P
- Horp0
^ I never was on a war footing with this, I was merely curious to understand Drgs position completely so as to avoid making incorrect judgements about what he stands for which then cloud my views of him in future. He did, for a while, seem to be on shakey moral ground, and I guess my intention was to edge him closer to the thin ice.
Now I have work to do. The deadline was Friday. I'm still working.
- so who is that other guy??
http://www.edd-e.com…
^^ this guy... who dat??epill - I have no fucking idea, you'd have to ask 7.34. He found it and decided to tell everyone it was me. = ?Horp
- oh then your new jewy pic is on
LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!epill - I guess so!Horp
- so who is that other guy??