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  • Dr_Rand

    The greatest I've ever seen.

    Aug 29, 08, 5:24 a.m. – Permalink
  • moth

    Did he promise a war with Russia?

    • with McCain– Dr_Rand1/3
      Oven chips?
      I hate them too.      – moth2/3
      yeah they suck.– jimzyk3/3
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 5:26 a.m. – Permalink
  • TheBlueOne

    I'm not sure. Still digesting it. The delivery was excellent as always. He got as specific as he could given the type of speech it was. The "A Better Country" phrase was really good and I hope the campaign uses that going forward, as opposed to "change".

    I've read through some of the standard right-wing pundits this morning and their attacks are pretty weak against it.

    I did think the whole spectacle of the event kinda reinforces the cult of personality thing. I mean I really like the guy and he has my vote, but the pre-speech video montage thing got a bit maudlin for me...

    • I wept– Dr_Rand1/6
      Oh, I got misty at a few places myself...– TheBlueOne2/6
      I appreciated the video bio...helped me grasp him a little better. But I'm a mush that way. :)– monkeyshine3/6
      The video thing was pretty irrelevant. Any politician will do that sort of thing. His speech was one for the ages.– CyBrain4/6
      He's a great speaker. But I have to agree about being careful...– Jaline5/6
      dam i missed the Montage, was the rocky song involved ?– BattleAxe6/6
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 5:28 a.m. – Permalink
  • TheBlueOne

    I also liked how he didn't run away from the idea of actually utilizing government for what it is...for nearly thirty years now both parties have run away from the idea of competent government like it had cooties or something...it's an idea that has been missing fro our public discourse for a long time and it's nice to hear it back. Of course the right-wing will label it "socialist" or whatever even though it's not.

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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 5:30 a.m. – Permalink
  • digdre

    Very nice speech, I just saw it

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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 5:35 a.m. – Permalink
  • boobs

    Eight is enough.

    • Thank you.– digdre1/3
      i thought 4 was plenty
      – lackofcolor2/3
      I thought he lost the popular vote, was instated improperly by the Supreme Court and stole votes with his brother along the way– CyBrain3/3
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 5:37 a.m. – Permalink
  • skwiotsmith

    The speech was good, but Obama is far from his best when he's attacking McCain. It's not what he does best, and it makes him sound like he's part of the old Washington system, something he is trying so much to show he isn't part of. Granted he needed to do that to make his case clear to us Americans, but, you know.

    In the second part of his speech, ohboy was he on fire. Fantastic ending.

    As for the 'cult personality', I think you're missing the point of these events. These conventions are huge publicity stunts, and to attempt to call out Obama on it is like the pot calling the kettle black. All Obama did is out do anything McCain could have ever pulled off, and more power to him for it.

    • That's gonna be Biden's job– flashbender1/2
      He ripped McCain so pointedly I loved it. "We all put country first"– Soler2/2
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 5:43 a.m. – Permalink
  • kelpie

    I'm reading it now, seems pretty good but I've no chance to watch the video

    • greed, but his speeches are so well written they are a pleasure to read also. This one was ace.– kelpie1/3
      "A"greed, that should have read– kelpie2/3
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 5:48 a.m. – Permalink
  • kelpie

    "the change we need doesn't come from Washington. Change comes to Washington." good line

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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 5:50 a.m. – Permalink
  • Wolfboy

    God I hope he gets in, it's so important in a global level.

    So what is the general feeling in the US about McCain?

    I'm a Brit and to most people here it was pretty unfathomable how Bush was a 2 term president so I'm still pretty worried that when push comes to shove McCain will get the nod.

    Is this the case or does the country see the need for something new?

    • The general feeling? Wow, he's old. He was a POW. He's a white guy. The other guy is black.– TheBlueOne1/5
      I'm starting to think Obama could perform the miracle of the loaves and fishes and some people would say he hasn't shown anything– Dr_Rand2/5
      shown them anything– Dr_Rand3/5
      He should be ahead by 50 points in the polls– Dr_Rand4/5
      Ah, it's the same people who said Iraq would be a cakewalk...– TheBlueOne5/5
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:18 a.m. – Permalink
  • lackofcolor

    I'm hoping the debates turn out something like the nixon/kennedy debates.
    http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=…

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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:20 a.m. – Permalink
  • TheBlueOne

    What's McCain's speech going to be?

    "Hello friends. I was POW. Thank you and God bless America."

    • hahah– digdre1/7
      drilling, terrorism, god bless america.– lackofcolor2/7
      And something about change, empty promises, celebrity. My wife the beer heiress....– TheBlueOne3/7
      "your lives are fucked. tough shit"– Dr_Rand4/7
      Or have some sort of flashback live on stage

      – MSTRPLN5/7
      i wonder how long his biographical video will be.. get it because he's old!– lackofcolor6/7
      ...you forgot: and my values are solidly judeo-christian– monkeyshine7/7
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:21 a.m. – Permalink
  • digdre

    It's cool to hear, what he all wants, but i'm wondering if he will get it all fixed, where will he get those 125billion?
    95% tax cuts for working families?

    but yea.. my political/economical knowlegde isn't the best around here

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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:23 a.m. – Permalink
  • utopian2

    inspirational would be a understatement, enough said...

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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:25 a.m. – Permalink
  • TheBlueOne

    Honestly, whoever gets the job is going to walk into a clusterfuck of a first day. Bush/Cheney are going to rip down the wallpaper and take the appliances with them as they scoot out the door. Obama or McCain will just be standing there in the White House going "What the fuck...."

    • But I hope it's the O-man...– TheBlueOne1/3
      roflmao– digdre2/3
      I think Cheney already bolted. Where has he been?– mcLeod3/3
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:26 a.m. – Permalink
  • itstimefortea

    link? is it on youtube?

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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:29 a.m. – Permalink
  • d_rek

    Hi. I would like my tax dollars to pay for things that you will never work hard enough for. Thanks!

    • id you read/listen to his examples or are you parroting selfish, ignorant nonsense?– kelpie
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:30 a.m. – Permalink
  • digdre

    no, google 'Obama Speech'

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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:30 a.m. – Permalink
  • TheBlueOne

    It's always funny watching the right wing pundits and shills. Before the speech they were all like "Well, Obama has to make a case for himself. He has to lay out specifics. He has to hit back hard against McCain."

    A minute after the speech the same hacks were saying "He focused to much on his own story. He was too specific, he now has too many flanks to defend. He went negative against McCain, which doesn't fit his image. Not a very good speech...."

    That's when I threw my tea mug at David Brooks head...

    • he also said some kind worst to mc cain.– digdre1/5
      not really.. kind.. but not offending aswell.– digdre2/5
      david brooks: smug little shit– capsize3/5
      david brooks can eat my shit– Dr_Rand4/5
      Both groups just attack each other. It's tiring.– Jaline5/5
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:31 a.m. – Permalink
  • capsize

    I liked the stage design with the circular steps to the lectern and that it was held in a stadium, an open oval. Obama's speech was good for recognizing that we can get ahead if we end the old narratives including the one started by MLK ( who was not mentioned by name) never mind the others shilled by neocons that his presence on that stage confirms.

    • The stage design was reminiscent of MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech setting. :D– flavorful1/3
      reminiscent = built to emulate.– flavorful2/3
      what bout the people behind him eh? :p– digdre3/3
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:45 a.m. – Permalink
  • TheBlueOne

    Obama's whole campaign has been very layered with myth. There are allusions everywhere to some very great and powerful touchstones in American history and character. In Obama I see alot of Lincoln, Roosevelt and Reagan. I find his speeches I see alot of Emerson ..even last night he dropped some Einstein paraphrasing - "You understand that in this election, the greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result." and Einstein said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."..

    I mean Obama IS the smart guy in the room and he's (or the people around him) really know how to connect his story to the deeper and older currents in the US mythos. I hope it works...

    • kinda like John F. Kennedy eh? (layered in myth)– akoni
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    Dog-earAug 29, 08, 6:59 a.m. – Permalink

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