Pan global view of unclean foodstuffs
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- kelpie
right, interested to find out if anyone knows if tea can be halal or not, and why honey is classed as kosher when pigs and stuff dinnae make honey.
- madirish0
um..... what?
- kelpie0
you heard me
- ian0
honey comes from bees bums. Thats why its dirty, innit?
Dunno about the tea though, depends on what type of tea maybe?- honey is bee vomit not poo. I think. but mmmm its delicious!MashPotatoesJohnson
- paraselene0
erm. i guess if pigs made honey it *wouldn't* be kosher. but you can have kosher honey, and, more importantly, kosher bit o honey:
- kelpie0
thanks for clearing that up para, I feel moar learned now.
the tea thing is well getting on my nuts though
- ian0
Tea: Halal
(Please note that Halal status is based on absence of any processing aid ingredients or hidden ingredients. Food products in European countries may contain up to 20% undeclared food ingredients. But laws are changing at the end of this year to declare all the ingredients in a food product. The Mushbooh food products have to be under "Suitable for vegetarian" label but without alcohol in flavors and without use of alcohol in spice extraction. The Halal status of McDonald's UK products are based on the ingredients list provided by McDonald on their British web site.
- kelpie0
To be honest, I think we should be looking into the possibility that pigs *do* make honey, and how that would effect just about every simple truth we cling to in life. wild.
- paraselene0
it's an interesting debate, though, the matter of honey being kosher. you can't eat bees, but you can eat honey. normally, if something comes from something that isn't kosher, then that thing isn't kosher. honey from bees is the exception that proves the rule.
i think mostly because a) it's awesome and b) you can make the argument that the bees do not 'produce' the honey but merely 'store' it. but that smacks of postrationalisation to me.
- ian0
Simple fact is, pigs taste very very good. Honey also tastes good. Pig and honey = lovely. So if they could make honey from pigs, I'd probably be camping outside the shop waiting for it to go on sale.
- I think most people refer to that as bacon...skwiotsmith
- Bacon, pork, ham. its all good baby.ian
- kelpie0
man, this is complicated; religion and snacking should always be kept seperate imo, isn't that why we had an enlightenment.
I'm going to devote my life to finding proof of pig-honey btw
- Fariska0
You guys are sick
- kelpie0
"I think most people refer to that as bacon..."
I thought bacon was pig flesh, I had no idea it was made out of honey. thanks for shattering my dream you dick
- skt0
- but embrace him and you get pig honey.skt
- wtf is wrong with her legs? she clearly needs to receive some bacon.paraselene
- they taper to a point. bad for walking, good for kung fukelpie
- schmutzi0
i read somewhere that the concept of "kosher" (i guess halal is basically the same thing) is based on ancient crude understanding of nature.
the priests believed that there was a force of chaos in nature, opposite to god´s given order.
all creatures/substances that did not fit their primitive understanding of nature were considered to be chaotic and therefore avoided.
it basically goes like this: fish live in the sea. if it´s living in the sea, and doesn´t not look like a fish, it must be against god´s order, so they don´t eat crabs.
or the carnivore and herbivore thing. if an animal does both, it´s against god´s order, so they don´t eat pigs (which were omnivore wild boars back then).
so it´s obviously hard these days to follow their original concept.
- skt0
i though kosher originated from guidelines that would help you avoid food poisoning.
- schmutzi0
thought so too, but apparently it´s spiritual for the main part. or so this book on jewish culture said. i find it surprising that there never have been updates of the rules. they´re so proto, like way before 2000BC.
- paraselene0
i gotta latent kosher gene. i'm watching attenborough from behind my hands - writhing... grimacing... screaming "that's why we don't eat that shit!"
