Hydro74
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- Hewmiri0
I don't have a phone any more, I dropped it in the ocean.
from my email to him:
"I will apologize for overreacting if you really had no idea. In retrospect I will say that it was half impulsive and out of rage..."
I'm sorry newstoday, although I still think he was wrong, I was wrong too for making this negativity explode. hopefully he'll pay me this time and that's it. I am totally okay with burning this "bridge". bye.
- mrbee28280
Being 33 with 10 years under my belt and having been 19 and in your shoes waiting on cash I can feel your situation Jesse. But I've done this exact thing before and it's a horrible idea. You will learn over time that everything that you stick on the web is a permanent character history of yourself and it only takes a few moments for someone to find things like this before considering to use your services.
Never take things like this public. It's a beef with you and the client. Also, never go to the extreme (collection agencies or lawyers.. flame threads etc) without talking to the person on the phone. Emails and IMs are not a guaranteed form of communication... they are a luxury on the other persons part in that they can respond if they want to.
You're also going to find out over time that if you are good by others, others will be good by you. The majority of agencies and studios don't cut checks a week, 2 r 4 weeks after you do the work. They cut checks for everything on a given day of the month. If they use freelancers, they may have 40 they work with and they send checks to all of them on the same day. I used to think they would pay me after I finished something but th reality is they don't have time to write checks everyday. Although it's extreme, you can expect to wait up to as long as 3 months for payment from some people because they may do accounts payable quarterly while others cut bi weekly.
Do your homework up front, not when rent is do. Ask about payment.. many tip toe around money. You're doing a service and you need to be paid. Ask how and when they pay BEFORE you start, make sure your rate is documented and ALWAYS get a signed scope of work from the client. Best of luck to you and I'm sure Joshua isn't going to screw you over.
- ian0
2 months does not seem excessive to wait for payment from a client. Sure its a kicker if youre freelance and need the cash but as pascii said, a lot of companies dont send out cheques as soon as they get an invoice. 6 months could be more like it.
Its crap and its not fair but thems the breaks chief and airing your griefs, while completely understandable, is also quite unprofessional. The small claims court is the place for these matters. Also, I dont wanna seem like Im on his side, Im sorry you got messed around.
- Nairn0
Jesus, man - it's a bit late now, isn't it? Just think in future, eh?
- DUKIE08220
... the money is no where near enough to hire a lawyer and take legal action.
Hewmiri
(May 14 07, 01:31)this reminds me of the time when...
- tank020
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as far as i can say is, big companies don't pay as fast as they should. what i can do is calling them and send 'em rominders, each tome 2.5% + on the invoice. sorry, don't want to offend you.i only don't agree in washing business-problems in public. there are a lot of people here who read that who couuld give you some work to do.
pascii
(May 14 07, 02:04)for instance.
coca cola will pay your invoices a year after date. cause you first have to send a form that they agree you can bill them..;creezie stuff..i wonder how money they make on the intrest rates..cause they do this worldwide...
- smltom0
When I managed a company owned by a banker the best lesson he taught me was to ask the client you are soliciting to state their payment terms in writing before any busines is done. This being done you are never uncomfortable demanding payment. Doing such in a public forum shows a faulty process!
- cacoe0
He's not a big company though... and although I can see on one hand, this isn't the most professional way to go about the situation, if it's a smaller sum of money and the guy needs paying, what else are you to do?
- Bluejam0
what else are you to do?
cacoe
(May 14 07, 03:28)
- t_rock0
snap
- mrdobolina0
alright, enough piling on the guy, this is how you learn how to get paid on your terms rather than the client's, he knows better now.
Now back to this:
the more professional you are the longer clients take to pay you
Rand
(May 14 07, 15:29)Choice wisdom. it is very very true.
- Geith0
what always gets me is how the client wants it yesterday and then gets lazy when it comes time to pay.
- ian0
Small claims court in UK/Ireland, dunno about America/Canada...
- cacoe0
what happens if the dispute is trans atlantic though (not sayin it is..)
- meffid0
Hillarious.
Don't put your age on your site, people will figure out how old you are when you're e-rage NT posts come through.
Don't burn bridges, with the way the polar caps are melting you'll need them. This industry like any other is who you know. Imagine if Burton wanted a whole line through Hydro though you. Not likely now is it? Over a couple of hundred bucks? Fuck it man. You'll only spend it on shit anyway ;)
Keep it in check YO.
- cacoe0
ok, its not. nice work Hewmiri btw...
- traut0
I tried to warn people of working with someone on here before and people shot me down and told me this is not the place to vent frustrations such as this. Im awaiting a check from photo retouching i did for CGlacyPhotography from over a year ago.
- dkmb0
that bridge was burnt about 37 posts ago
- dkmb0
actually 58
- Abandoned0
haha e-rage