cryptome shutdown
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- Brookoioioi0
Witt, i would ask you to read all posted docs, but it looks like due to heavy traffic, probably caused by slashdot, NT, etc, the server is not responing very well. So try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry…
for a quick intro.
- Brookoioioi0
ok, so a a "British Intelligence Agency" has requested removal of this document: http://tinyurl.com/2qar74
and due to refusal the isp has decided to cut the pipe.backstory between cryptome and their isp here: http://tinyurl.com/yv8n2b
(includes similar previous requests)I am sorry to keep bumping but this is an important issue which i will keep bumping untill it gathers momentum.
This has everything to do with fundamental rights in a democracy and although these documents will still be available to those of us who know how to look for them, it is not at all in our interests to have this site unavailable to general population.
- Brookoioioi0
v nice thanks ;) Having another one tonight!
- v-gates0
John Young is a courageous zealot- doing what previously only governments could do- namely trading in information that at very least inconveniences those who prefer to operate without the publics knowledge. There are three reasons why they like it secret: what they do is illegal somewhere, it is in the strategic interest, and, secrecy is a business, often murderous.
here's one problem of giving it away:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric…
- Brookoioioi0
Yes, i do understand the reasons why this kind of information is supressed. I agree in part with them, the Richard Welch case being a good example. But alot of the documents on cryptome are about things we have a valid right to know about. The Deepwater stuff that seems to be the reason for the shutdown for example, is not a case of protecting service people from danger, but protecting Lockheed et al from accountability.
- madirish0
wtf is cryptome?
- v-gates0
Sweet you still say "accountability" but who believes that? We are talking about stealing. The MSM has ben bought and paid for and they are not going to discuss much less investigate the corporate handouts the USA has been funding. Let me ask you this: where has all the war money gone? We hear about the cost but where exactly does it go?
Let's face it: we are in the late republic- a costly and profitable war, a necessary but unpopular war, fake piety, fake science, fake morality, fake honesty, fake religion, fake outrage. The corruption is real however.
- Jaline0
crypt + tomb + home
???
- Jaline0
but really, what are you talking about, brooko?
- Brookoioioi0
please read, it is a very important site for important documents being driven underground.
- Brookoioioi0
You seem in this post to cite all the reasons why i believe sites like cryptome are invaluable to defenending our rights in a democracy. these issues are being pushed into the darkest corners of our society and people are just not waking up to the facts, without sites like cryptome government and corperate corruption will continue unchecked, is that what you really want?
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"fake piety, fake science, fake morality, fake honesty, fake religion, fake outrage. The corruption is real however."
my new sig. thanks ;)
- Brookoioioi0
if you need an example why this site is so important
- Nairn0
"..probably caused by slashdot, NT, etc, the server is not responing very well."
Brookoioioi
(May 2 07, 05:58)the dry wit is strong in you
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- v-gates0
my signature?
ten times everything
- Brookoioioi0
bump
- Brookoioioi0
I got the reason for the shutdown wrong last night.
"A, you hit the nail on the head. The Deepwater expose, and attempts to conceal it, point to the prime suspect for the shutdown. Verio would not buckle for anything less, based on past practice, and are probably hoping the shutdown would be seen for what it really is: they've been ordered not to disclose anything which would call attention to the Deepwater material and its threat to national security."
from http://cryptome.org
- Brookoioioi0
http://cryptome.org/cg-screwup.h…
fucking crazy
- Witt0
oh i see. thx.
* wears Grey coat. hands Nairn sunglasses.
- Brookoioioi0
no, i mean i just really like that last paragraph of yours and may keep it for a signature.
Important stuff trying to be supressed follows :
"Bottom line, the Coast Guard was
asleep, they screwed up big time, the contractor knew they were
asleep, so they proceeded to rape the Coast Guard... A whistleblower
at Lockheed came forward (no, it wasn't me), the DHS-OIG investigated and found nothing, the DOJ investigated and uh... let just say that we will hear more about that later. Anyway, I figured out who they were pulling off the scam, and wrote a report, and then the report came out early this week (for the hearing mid week) the Coast Guard does an "oh-sh*t... we have been caught" and starts scrambling to do something ... anything between last week and the hearing date to show
they are trying to be proactive (hence then announcing that they just cancelled the Lockheed Contract). Lockheed on the other hand is screwed, and screwed bad. During the hearing they (as a company, and four of their senior executives) got caught dead committing perjury ...
and I mean they got caught dead."