cryptome shutdown
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- madirish0
wtf is cryptome?
- Jaline0
crypt + tomb + home
???
- Jaline0
but really, what are you talking about, brooko?
- Brookoioioi0
please read, it is a very important site for important documents being driven underground.
- Brookoioioi0
if you need an example why this site is so important
- Brookoioioi0
ok, so a a "British Intelligence Agency" has requested removal of this document: http://tinyurl.com/2qar74
and due to refusal the isp has decided to cut the pipe.backstory between cryptome and their isp here: http://tinyurl.com/yv8n2b
(includes similar previous requests)I am sorry to keep bumping but this is an important issue which i will keep bumping untill it gathers momentum.
This has everything to do with fundamental rights in a democracy and although these documents will still be available to those of us who know how to look for them, it is not at all in our interests to have this site unavailable to general population.
- Brookoioioi0
bump
- Brookoioioi0
I got the reason for the shutdown wrong last night.
"A, you hit the nail on the head. The Deepwater expose, and attempts to conceal it, point to the prime suspect for the shutdown. Verio would not buckle for anything less, based on past practice, and are probably hoping the shutdown would be seen for what it really is: they've been ordered not to disclose anything which would call attention to the Deepwater material and its threat to national security."
from http://cryptome.org
- Brookoioioi0
http://cryptome.org/cg-screwup.h…
fucking crazy
- v-gates0
I'm pretty sure Mr. Young can find another ISP. This isn't the heavy hand of censorship. Besides, if the NSA had any sense they would host it themselves.
- Brookoioioi0
This is possibly true, but it is not as simple as just finding any other isp. Another alternative posited on both cryptome and slashdot is that it will be driven underground. The NSA seemed to agree with you about keeping cryptome where it was so they could see what was being leaked, at least untill now.
- Brookoioioi0
And heavy handed censorship is precisely what this is about.
- v-gates0
Underground doesn't exist on the grid.
old school:http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
new school: http://www.cryptome.org
- Witt0
what is cryptome and what is deepwater?
- Brookoioioi0
Belive me, i understand that somthing cannot be removed from the web once put there, but archives like cryptome allow for more people to access important, unfiltered (this is the key here i think) information. Wikipedia is not a good example of unfiltered information, as a previous cryptome document shows, they are blocking editors using tor anonymizers from contributing to documents, in essence blocking those who cannot speak out for fear of the reprisals if their identity was to become known.
I do not think it as acceptable to assume that people like John Young can provide services like this without public support, or that just because some of us know how to dig the deep web, we should be ok about this site being shut down.
- FrdmOfSpch0
how was your barbeque?
- Brookoioioi0
Witt, i would ask you to read all posted docs, but it looks like due to heavy traffic, probably caused by slashdot, NT, etc, the server is not responing very well. So try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry…
for a quick intro.
- Brookoioioi0
v nice thanks ;) Having another one tonight!
- v-gates0
John Young is a courageous zealot- doing what previously only governments could do- namely trading in information that at very least inconveniences those who prefer to operate without the publics knowledge. There are three reasons why they like it secret: what they do is illegal somewhere, it is in the strategic interest, and, secrecy is a business, often murderous.
here's one problem of giving it away:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric…