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- FrdmOfSpch0
because your attachment to guns because of your distrust of democratic government means you will not accept the responsibility, that that ideological position leads to a gun menace II society.
Which, i guess, you can say you are willing to put up with because you dont trust democratic civilian government.
But then to say it has no bearing on incidences such as this, is a denial of responsibility.
- lowimpakt0
yeah, but your all too stoned...lol
Bullitt
(Apr 19 07, 06:52)
-----------------ha ha ahaa
- Crouwel0
true that. we all are. every day. all of the people here.
- TheBlueOne0
that seems like an abject denial of responsibility TheBlueOne
FrdmOfSpch
(Apr 19 07, 06:50)How so my First amendment friend?
- Bullitt0
wtfwtfwtfwtfwtf????? ?
USA IS DENSELY POPULATED?
Come to the Netherlands my friend.
Very densely populated and still less of that ultraviolence, even though it seems to increase a little.
Crouwel
(Apr 19 07, 06:46)yeah, but your all too stoned...lol
- Crouwel0
like the US is some wild hotheaded teenager just coming up in the past 60 years or something?
mrdobolina
(Apr 19 07, 06:49)haha, yes, more plausible.
but the teenager has no right, if it ain't mature yet, to rule the world.
;P
- Bullitt0
it's just plain old fucked up human crap.
TheBlueOne
(Apr 19 07, 06:36)Yup, I think so, but lets face it he wouldnt have killed 31 people without the automatics. That's like handing binladen a few warheads, he's a fucked up human as well.
- FrdmOfSpch0
not the video, your earlier post
- FrdmOfSpch0
that seems like an abject denial of responsibility TheBlueOne
- mrdobolina0
like the US is some wild hotheaded teenager just coming up in the past 60 years or something?
- mrdobolina0
how much older are european countries than the united states? do you think that makes a difference?
- Crouwel0
I dunno, I don't think gun laws are the answer. Could it not just be down to that fact america's one big densely populated country. They say Canada has more Gun's but almost no shootings, but isn't there more tree's than people in Canada?
Bullitt
(Apr 19 07, 05:10)wtfwtfwtfwtfwtf??????
USA IS DENSELY POPULATED?
Come to the Netherlands my friend.
Very densely populated and still less of that ultraviolence, even though it seems to increase a little.
- mrdobolina0
a straight pullout of iraq would solve that problem, maybe not for the iraqis, but hey, they were never a primary concern going in.
- Bullitt0
Even I look past the gun ownership thing - WHY are you guys allowed to buy fucking automatics? This surely goes above and beyond the requirement to protect yourself. I mean what are you expecting - a Sunni insurgency?
moth
(Apr 19 07, 06:25)Agreed, Didn't Clinton originally bring a ban on automatics, but bush went back on his promise and didn't renew it.
- chossy0
It's never too late to start
Immediatly you ARE making an impact one less gun = one less clip of ammo potentially fired at some cunt.
- BonSeff0
dobs,
the govt could use their super satellite technology and beam their x-ray cameras into everybodies homes. find all the guns, then melt them and make better killing machines for our armed forces
- kelpie0
Dobs, that's the exact same argument leveled at you time and time again over Iraq, why is this issue different?
"I don't think gun laws are the answer, crazy people is always gonna kill folks" is different from "we have a problem of enforcement and logistics to overcome before we can dent the gun culture and mass proliferation"
- TheBlueOne0
Look..many here think I'm pretty "lefty", and in some respects I am..but I certainly support the 2nd Amendment in the US Constitution - primarily on principle. I don't want the government to be the only ones able to be armed. That said, and I had a big heated argument with a dear anti-gun friend last night over this, I think there is no reason for the general populace to have military grade automatic weapons, handguns, armor piercing bullets and that there should be a mandatory four week waiting period for gun purchases of ALL kinds. The only reason for these weapons is to give NRA rednecks an excuse to go out into the woods and shoot up flaming discarded oil drums and dis "libruls" over a few beers.
This kid was whacked out of his head - and the violence he perpetrated woulda happened regardless of gun laws - he would of gotten his hands on the weapons anyway I hate to say. Movies didn't cause this, video games didn't cause this, and gun laws didn't cause this - it's just plain old fucked up human crap.
- mrdobolina0
someone detail how this country would go about banning guns for me please. I hear tons of idealism but no real methods for actually getting it done.