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- SteveJobs0
his "multimedia manifesto" has left the media and all who sit and ponder the minds of such twisted people, in a sesspool of their own psychoanalytic speculations.
i think he got the response he wanted...
i'm actually surprised he didn't stir the pot more and include movies of himself playing grand theft auto with some gangsta rap blaring in the background or whatever new thing that gets leiberman on his soapbox these days.
just my thoughts...
- Gucci0
bliz,
they did try to help him, but I think that in his mind, shit was already too far gone. That kid had probably been on cruise control for a few years.You're saying he had choices? I agree with you 100% but those choices probably were made when he was only just young... and even then, he may have had mental disorders feeding into paranoia. However, the hard part is his this: his condition allowed him to function as an everyday person. You can't lock someone down simply because they like 'weird' shit - so really... there's nothing that the people around him could do beyond what they did. It's a free country and everyone has the right to live their lives the way they see fit. I don't blame the analysts and teachers, their hands were tied. Until he did something 'wrong', no one could force him to do anything.
As a side note: There's so much we don't know about the brain and how it functions, it's ridiculous. I just thank God we've come as far as we have as a society and mental disorders are being taken notice of by the general public...
- morilla0
I think this is going to have ramifications on things like we have never seen before.
- Jaline0
tell me...what do you think of when you see / hear that name?
what do you think many Americans / corporations would believe when a package with that name appeared in their mailbox?
- bliznutty0
who or what is "A. Ishmael" ?!?
- Jaline0
"A. Ishmael" ... maybe he was crazy, but he surely wasn't stupid.
Witt
(Apr 18 07, 18:51)I was thinking the same thing while watching the video.
Kind of funny.
- bliznutty0
you are right.
i'm prolly contradicting myself.
he's got serious problems, but is functional, thus functionaly dwindling into a nightmare.i guess you could say society tried to help too!
i'm just sayin though, we do have issues when people are doing this as a game, sending videos to the media.. telling kids to follow them.. and the kids want to top the previous effort! fucking crazy... sad.
- Witt0
"A. Ishmael" ... maybe he was crazy, but he surely wasn't stupid.
- Jaline0
yeah, that part was disturbing. I can't wait for the religion discussion about this!!!
(that was some sarcasm)
Look, I agree with you bliz, but if he's mentality ill there's some ambiguity around "choice". Obviously he wasn't strong enough to do anything though.
- bliznutty0
gucci,
i don't feel there is any way this guy can go through life, especially in higher education, with no one reaching out to care for him in any way. he CHOSE rejection. blamed it on his wealthy peers, and chose to be fucking CRAZY. and he's prolly right generations more of fucking CRAZY kids like him can look up to him.the jesus part is really sad.
what an idiot.
he's obviously mental when he's like 'you don't know what its like to have your throught slit, or torched alive' ---- neither does he. he has no rationality.
- Jaline0
one of his teachers was so worried about him that she complained to the college board, but the board apparently said no one had any real proof to push the idea of him getting some more help...
- moldero0
Guns are not the issue, If I wanted too, I could go to my living room, grab one of my samurai swords, walk into a crowded place and go at it that way, but then again im not some nut job psycho.
from what i heard on MSNBC not too long ago was, the college was warned in the past that he was a danger to society by some kind of agency, and the school did nothing. (if someone can find a link, hook it up.)
- harlequino0
Wow, this guy was so clearly mentally ill. Probably a laundry list of problems. Personality disorder, disassociative disorder, you name it. His perception of reality was so far gone, listening to what he actually says in that tape.
- Jaline0
and says, "martyrs like us"
- Jaline0
If it's not obvious that he's a copycat, he actually mentions the names of Eric and Dylan (Columbine murderers) in his manifesto.
- Jaline0
exactly, Gucci.
I agree about him being a loner, and also seeing many people like that around me.
- Jaline0
wow, sick.
- Gucci0
society has got issues when it breeds crazies like this.
bliznutty
(Apr 18 07, 17:48)Nah... I think this was the kids self-esteem / self-image issues at work. He probably felt like an outsider his whole life... and maybe a lot of that was his own sense of perception. Maybe he came from a strict family who supressed a lot of his wants or ignored him as a kid?
The monotonous tone and emotionlessness in his voice tells you he really is going through the motions. I didn't get a sense there was a motivating/driving force behind his actions, just a contorted view of self vs. world.
- Gucci0
All i can do is laugh incredulously at that video. you can tell that kid thought that was cool. I mean... the pictures.....wow. He tried REALLY hard to look like he came straight out of a comic book or movie. "Loner"? no shit...
The ONLY chilling thing about that video for me personally was that I probably met a dozen people just like him in high school.
- bliznutty0
holy fucking shit.
that video is sick.like i said.
guns arent the issue here.there are literally thousands of these crazy fuckers all over our schools and wherever else.
society has got issues when it breeds crazies like this.