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- TheBlueOne0
Whatever...you want to argue about the methodology of a study..blah blah..
Meanwhile, whatever your number is, add 110 more to it. Today.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp…
Yup. Everything is getting better. Sunshine and puppies everywhere.
- k0na_an0k0
for any of you who don't want to click on the link. i'll post the first two paragraphs.
BAGHDAD, Oct. 10 -- Iraqi police found 50 bodies dumped across Baghdad on Tuesday, apparent victims of sectarian death squads (aka US forces given direct orders by President Bush, backed by all war-mongering US citizens who support the war), and a bombing at a bakery in the capital which was most likely carried out by a war mongering US citizen on vacation in Iraq, or, George Bush himself, killed 10 people in the biggest single attack of the day.
The discovery of the bodies, many tortured and all shot by American solders, NOT terrorists and Al Queda members, brought to at least 110 the number found in Baghdad in the past two days, an Interior Ministry official said as he was stuffing American money into his pocket with a post-it note stuck to it by George Bush that read "Kill em all cause I need the oil for my swimming pool of oil I'm building in my backyard".
- k0na_an0k0
Whatever...you want to argue about the methodology of a study..blah blah..
--- more like arguing it's validity. like you do with everything the government does, which in your mind you treat as trying to pull the wool over your eyes. i argue (as well as a vast majority of other people and countries and scientists conducting their own research) and somehow i become partisan. i don't get it.Meanwhile, whatever your number is, add 110 more to it. Today.
--- by who's hands? really. do you honestly think if everyone pulled out tomorrow it would all just stop and all the puppies and sunshine would come back?Yup. Everything is getting better. Sunshine and puppies everywhere.
--- i wonder what on earth you're going to do when a new president comes into office and you find out nothing changes, only the face on screen giving the speech. what on earth are you going to do?TheBlueOne
(Oct 12 06, 08:46)inline...
- Cactus0
Oh, Cactus, You mean this Omar Fadil, who's is part of Pjamas Media?
iraqthemodel.blogspot....
You know, Pajamas Media, founded by that nuball form Little Green Footballs who makes Fox news look sane?
I like the clever and fallicious way you try to represent shit.
Your a propaganda whore. Peddle your wares somewhere else..what next? You going to link to Ahmed Chalibi's site?
Whne YOU get to Iraq and do a body count, then you can criticize people that went there and did it.
TheBlueOne
(Oct 12 06, 06:43)I started reading him long before he was associated with those sites you mentioned. Do you have any concrete reasons for discrediting him other using a McCarthyite smear by association?
Another thing that stinks about this study is ommissions.
"Of the 601,027 violent deaths, 31 per cent were directly attributed to Allied forces, with 24 per cent attributed to "other" causes and 45 per cent attributed to an "unknown" cause."
"Unknown cause" my ass. They can't even bring themselves to mention who is doing the vast majority of killing over there.
- lowimpakt0
one in 40
- k0na_an0k0
one in 5 have gingivitis
- lowimpakt0
one in a lifetime never arrive
- k0na_an0k0
thats deep
- lowimpakt0
deeply dippy about those spanish guys
- k0na_an0k0
deeply dippy about those spanish flys
- pavlovs_dog0
eh...
faliure is faliure, so this thread is kinda stupid.
...islam and freedom, oil and water.
the end.
- mrdobolina0
cactus and kona shouldnt be defending anything.
If they thought everything was okey doke, there would be no debate.
they should be basking in the freedom that they have brought to these savages.
here is a big cheers to you guys!
YAY!
- not_report0
that kona anok guy is a twisted guy that's for sure...
- mrdobolina0
that is up for debate, but I bet he had a great dinner tonite, that he drove to wthout checkpoints.
- KuzII0
sounds like a pretty scientific study to me... 90% chance that 600,000 more have died between 2003-2006 because of the war and subsequent occupation than would have died during the Saddam era - even despite crippling sanctions.
- Cactus0
cactus and kona shouldnt be defending anything.
If they thought everything was okey doke, there would be no debate.
they should be basking in the freedom that they have brought to these savages.
here is a big cheers to you guys!
YAY!
mrdobolina
(Oct 12 06, 16:54)Everything is emphatically not great over there. I never said it was.
Let me break it down for you:
Saddam's Iraq was a threat to peace and stabilty in the region. He had every intention of restarting his WMD programs once the pressure on his regime eased. The "aprés Saddam scenerio" would most probably be much much worse than our present predicament.
For better or worse, Bush bit the bullitt and did something about it.
What was you plan? Oh that's right...you never had one.
You and people who think like you are seeing today your idea of how to handle world problems in North Korea and Darfur.
- KuzII0
you are painting complete logical fallasies right there.
The situation in North Korea and Darfur can not in any way be compared to Iraq in 2003.
There were existing sanctions imposed on Iraq which would lead to immediate recourse to war and UN weapons inspections scheme and no fly zones.
None of which operate either in Darfur OR North Korea.
- vespa0
What was you plan? Oh that's right...you never had one.
Cactus
(Oct 13 06, 01:47)The UN weapons inspections policy was WORKING. They were managing to ascertain whether or not weapons of mass destruction were actually being made, whether or not Iraq was a threat to the region. They were applying the right amount of pressure without resorting to violence.
Why did this have to change?
There was no need to go to war.
Scott Ritter, chief weapons inspector in Iraq for 7 years, had his professional opinion overruled in favour of war. Why?
http://www.commondreams.org/view…
- Pak-Man0
It's pretty spurious comparing present day North Korea and Darfur to Iraq in 2003.
The threat of Saddam's regime had been neutred via resolutions and sanctions systems with an immediate recourse to war if they were violated, and a UN weapons inspections system that had worked (hence no WMDs). Amongst other no-fly zones etc..
None of these conditions exist in North Korea or Darfur - as if you can compare them in any way, anyway.
There were other, more self-serving reasons, why Bush chose to "bite the bullet for the good of all humanity".
- not_report0
There were other, more self-serving reasons, why Bush chose to "bite the bullet for the good of all humanity".
Pak-Man
(Oct 13 06, 02:22)Yup, like the fear of EU getting influence over the area before the US.