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- Republican0
your ideals broke the world, diplomacy might work now and again, huh?
mrdobolina
(Jul 27 06, 11:20)Hmm, that's not really a solution either. Want to try again? Want to take some time to think a bit before typing? You make a great argument that you are right so i am giving it to you. Now let's have a solution.
- Republican0
diplomacy, talk with iran, talk with syria. refusing to talk with them is helping you think?
mrdobolina
(Jul 27 06, 11:21)I thought we tried that. Didn't the UN and Lebanon agree to disarm Hez? That didn't work and as a matter of fact Hez stockpiled 16,000 missles in the 6 years that 20,000 UN troops were supposed to watch and make sure they didn't. They did. So now what?
- Republican0
[crickets]
No plan. Just hate.
- TenaciousG0
The only way to win a guerilla war (when you ain't a guerilla) is to kill all the guerillas...
Thus the problem for normal armies is that guerillas don't wear uniforms and don't care who on either side lives or dies...
So either we need to get guerilla ourselves, or hire some friendly ones...
(But hiring them never works either... sigh)
- mrdobolina0
so further alienation of iran and syria is the way to go then, in your estimation?
- mrdobolina0
after 9/11 1 million people in tehran held a candlelight vigil for america, now popular opinion of america is at its lowest point ever.
Why do you think that is? You cant spread democracy at the end of a bayonet. One solution would be to stop trying.
- Republican0
so further alienation of iran and syria is the way to go then, in your estimation?
mrdobolina
(Jul 27 06, 11:23)Forget about my estimation right? Mine doesn't work. It escalates. I am wanting and waiting to hear yours.
- Republican0
after 9/11 1 million people in tehran held a candlelight vigil for america, now popular opinion of america is at its lowest point ever.
Why do you think that is? You cant spread democracy at the end of a bayonet. One solution would be to stop trying.
mrdobolina
(Jul 27 06, 11:26)Great speech but I was unable to locate a solution. Want to tell me what your solution is or are you just looping in a blame campaign? I take the blame. All of it for my party. Now, once again... let's hear a solution from you.
- flavorful0
yankees suck
k0na_an0k
(Jul 27 06, 10:02)Haha, last nite at the bar I was clapping when A-Rod hit his home run, and immediately, immediately the entire bar seemingly started shouting at me.
I just laughed and told them to fuck off in a joking manner
...
Which is why TheBlueOne's point was so good.
(Sorry for my tardiness.)
- Republican0
mrdobolina you are utterly useless. All you do is say how bad Bush made everything but you have no solution so anything anyone does is bad. It's like knowing nothing about design but telling people how awful their designs are. let's hear your design!
- mrdobolina0
I dont have a surefire solution, just like you dont. There is no simple solution. I didnt agree with this war because as colin powell said, you break it, you buy it.
Dont try to berate me because I dont have a solution for the shit that your ideals broke. I thought you guys were the party of accountability?
- TenaciousG0
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Everyone just let it all out, breathe...
- exador10
here's a fact.
Iraq is in a state of civil war.
that is undisputable.
that the mainstream media still insists in asking whether we can prevent a civil war there is a joke.
you can't. its allready happening.another fact.
as long as the west continues to back israel up with arms and cash, there won't be a change.
both sides in this mess are basically without decency.
israel has for decades shown the world that it can be just as twisted and ruthless, or more so, than anyone else...
they've attacked civilian areas, they've committed attrocities to rival anyones..but here's the rub.
the nations surrounding israel could have let the palestinians in, rather than keep them penned up in camps.
for all the talk of 'helping or brothers in gaza' or whatever, they've shown that what they really want is a cause that never dies.
if the palestinian camps stay there, there is always going to be unrest. and as long as there is unrest, they can claim to want to help them...
all they need to do is open the borders and say 'hey dude..come on in..you're family...we'll help you out'..
but no.so both sides are basically wrong in my opinion..
a solution would be to
a) clamp the fuck down on both of em.
israel needs US support for their very existance.
tell em in no uncertain terms that this shit is over...palestinans get their homeland, and a decent one at that..not some sort of seperated 'buntistans' that are more like South African 'homelands'next, you send a big hammer of a lesson to the surrounding muslim countries.
'there...the palestinians have now got their country'
the next fucker to pull any shit on their behalf gets a parking lot bomb on them....KABOOM...remember shock and awe?....we fucking mean it assholes!..both sides of this equation need a serious lesson...
didn't any of these fuckheads watch sesemee street?
they need to learn about caring and sharing in a big way.
- Momentum20
Sending a woman to speak on our behalf (america) for peace to a culture were women have no say is pretty much a slap in the face to them...
haha of course those peace talks won't work
- mrdobolina0
nice one ex.
there's your solution republican.
- TheBlueOne0
Sending a woman to speak on our behalf (america) for peace to a culture were women have no say is pretty much a slap in the face to them...
haha of course those peace talks won't work
Momentum2
(Jul 27 06, 11:41)
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Oh screw that. As much as I can't stand Condi, if she's our spokesperson they have to RESPECT that. I'm not pussyfoooting around their ideals on that level.Of course, she did a "heckuva job"...
- TheBlueOne0
Well at least the oil companies are doing well. Good thing, as I was starting to worry about them.
- Momentum20
I understand they have to respect it but they won't... its their culture, its who they are..
To them its like me Bush sending a maid to speak to their leaders... its just disrespect..
but oh well heh
- joyride0
Shit, Fact: In lot of arab countries Men don't respect woman. It's just how it is man... not that it's right.
Don't matter who it is.
- kelpie0
The only way to win a guerilla war (when you ain't a guerilla) is to kill all the guerillas...
TenaciousG
(Jul 27 06, 11:23)nah, only way to win a guerilla war is to kill all the guerillas, kill all the guerillas brothers, kill all their cousins, kill all their friends and kill all their children before they are old enough to lift a gun.
that's the thing about this kind of war, every 'forward step' taken, results in more problems down the line.