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• zoiks

  What do you use? or where is the thread that already talks about this?

  I need to learn about making beats. I want to make beats that sound like live drums as well as electronic blips and bleeps... I don't like pre-made - I want to customize the crap out of everything.

  where to start?

  Apr 27, 06, 7:26 a.m. – Permalink

• billl

  http://www.propellerheads.se/

  

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  Dog-earApr 27, 06, 7:33 a.m. – Permalink

• mpfree

  Reason 3 is very good.

  You can import in bleeps and blips into ReDrum and sequence and resequence again.

  The export out as .wav and import into Ableton Live! as a loop and bend and morph as you see fit. It automatically pitch shifts and matches the tempo for you.

  Think of it as a vector tool for music.

  

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  Dog-earApr 27, 06, 7:35 a.m. – Permalink

• flavorful

  9th really does make his beats on Fruity Loops.
  - Murs

  • +1– Glitterati_Duane

  

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  Dog-earApr 27, 06, 7:35 a.m. – Permalink

• krust

  it's pretty tough to program beats that sound like live drums. if thats the sound u want i'd reccommend chopping the shit out of some drum loops, then adding in your electronic stuff on top.

  

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  Dog-earApr 27, 06, 7:37 a.m. – Permalink

• mpfree

  you can mix and match whatever beats you want. Use a program like Sound Forge to literally steal live drums, slice up as well as possible, you can always fuck with the beginning and ending of a sample once you import it into something like ReDrum in Reason 3 and further manipulate it within something like Ableton Live! or Cubase, etc.

  

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  Dog-earApr 27, 06, 7:38 a.m. – Permalink

• acescence

  http://www.native-instruments.co…

  battery is great for making drum kits that sound "live"

  

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  Dog-earApr 27, 06, 7:49 a.m. – Permalink

• HijoDMaite

  BUMP!!

  Miguex where you at?

  I have the mac laptop, I do not have Pro Tools. Thinking about buying a midi keyboard. Am I on the right track? I know I want to make a purchase this month. What should I get next?

  My ultimate goal is to make music like this:

  or this:

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:14 p.m. – Permalink

• jon_d

  2 turntables

  • maybe a microphone– idiots1/2

    and you'll be rappin til the break of dawn xD– feel2/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:18 p.m. – Permalink

• sine

  yeah, the basics would be:
  1. decent soundcard (outboard for a laptop)
  2. speakers
  3. software sequencer
  4. keyboard

  • speakers = monitors– idiots

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:19 p.m. – Permalink

• idiots

  mashine
  ableton

  you can buy sampled drums galore from assorted retailers online. if you program your own beats with these higher end DAWs you can duplicate your patterns and layer your drum sounds. These DAWs also offer midi pressure variations if you aren't using a velocity sensitive controllers for programming to add that sense of realism.

  Also, I've been informed from a live drummer to build a stereoscopic representation of your drum kit when programming. Using the above mentioned duplicated patterns you could set cymbals/high hats 50-66% left and right accordingly, set snares and toms 25-33% left and right accordingly with your bass.kicks left centered. This way during midi playback it will have the feel the drummer experiences being surrounded by sound instead of confronted and blasted directly from the front from a flat centered sound.

  • left centered as in to leave centered.. to avoid confusion– idiots1/2

    lol stereoscopic drum kit programming... he's never even used a sequencer– sine2/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:24 p.m. – Permalink

• HijoDMaite

  idiots is your advice applicable to me who bumped this 6 yr old thread?

  or are you commenting on the original guy who started this thread?

  • i was replying to you hijo– sine1/3

    it's works for anyone,my information is current, but was directed at the OP, you got your own answer– idiots2/3

    thanks!– HijoDMaite3/3

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:30 p.m. – Permalink

• idiots

  HijoDMaite,

  The right keyboard to buy is based on your intended use and competence behind a piano. you may find a 25-49 key both a. has too small of keys and b. not enough range for you to play high and low octaves simultaneously.

  a buddy of mine bought a 25 key to get started and was instantly irritated by the lack of range. while the octave button is present, the limited keys prevent you from playing anything more than 2 octave apart. his next purchase was an 88 key controller.

  ask yourself if you want a midi synth, i.e. it has it's own sounds (more expensive) or a midi controller, with no internal sounds which simply allows you to play computer based instruments (cheaper)

  • thanks– HijoDMaite

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:31 p.m. – Permalink

• HijoDMaite

  @ sine - were you referring to my request or the original 'drum' thread?

  i is confused

  • yes, i was replying to you– sine

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:31 p.m. – Permalink

• HijoDMaite

  "The right keyboard to buy is based on your intended use and competence behind a piano."

  Let's start with competence from 1-10 is a 1.

  :-/

  • does a midi synth also have a sampler?– HijoDMaite1/2

    no.– idiots2/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:40 p.m. – Permalink

• tFour

  Renoise. It's just your present day sample tracker.

  Great if you want to cut stuff up and arrange the shit out of it.

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:41 p.m. – Permalink

• sine

  really, you should get a sequencer/daw to get started and just mess around with... arrange some beats, make loops. a basic midi keyboard will replace your mouse for inputting (hitting a key instead of drawing an event with the mouse). once you get an idea of how it all works you can start choosing other software and hardware based on how you want to work.

  • + a decent soundcard and (monitor) speakers should be your first purchase– sine1/3

    or at least proper headphones, i suggest AKG– idiots2/3

    ok i will start with the basics and you say it's a decent soundcard.– HijoDMaite3/3

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:47 p.m. – Permalink

• idiots

  I myself use a microKORG, but as i don't play the piano, I usually sample a sound I make on the Korg then use my Maschine Mikro to program in the notes I want to play of the sample so I am able to create basslines by pounding out patterns the same way I do drums on a 4 x 4 grid. Granted this limited range is really only for electronic music.. breaks / dnb / dubstep which doesn't have the progressions and diversity found in more technical music, i.e. classical for example would not benefit from my technique.

  I've also midi controlled the microKorg with my Maschine Mikro to trigger the sounds from the keyboard with my grid. (this helps me hit the right notes and stay on time)

  Another thing I like about the sampling of a single sound then using midi patterns is that I haven't recorded and committed to wav loop. this makes it easy for me to go back later and modify / replace that sample, as well as the pattern itself, without having to rerecord the audio loop. I can sample swap and simply reexport the entire track using the new sample.

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:48 p.m. – Permalink

• HijoDMaite

  along with the more organic, IDM style sound I posted above, I dig this type of hip-hip beat and would love to create it:

  &feature=related

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:52 p.m. – Permalink

• idiots

  based on your competence I'm assuming you're not going big budget to begin. buy this, it has pads for drums, knobs for tweaking, and keys for playing melodies, it's a little bit of everything you want to experiment with for $100 US
  

  

  • hmm. sounds great.– HijoDMaite1/2

    as far as ableton, i know this series midi maps extremely easy.– idiots2/2

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:52 p.m. – Permalink

• HijoDMaite

  so sick.
  &feature=related

  • yeah– jon_d

  

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  Dog-earDec 1, 11, 11:58 p.m. – Permalink