Intelligent design
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- mikotondria20
yeah, he does - but hes a nice guy..I admire the way he keeps his temper and doesnt swear. He might drive you up the wall, but I think hes a nice chap, overall.
- pavlovs_dog0
last word
- ukit0
Evolution doesn't just mean a cow turning into a whale right before our eyes dude - is that really how you understand it? lol
- TheTick0
yeah, he does - but hes a nice guy..I admire the way he keeps his temper and doesnt swear. He might drive you up the wall, but I think hes a nice chap, overall.
mikotondria2
(Oct 7 05, 10:51)
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I agree - I admire his gumption and stick-to-it-iveness, and he does contain his temper very well.Still doesn't mean his argument is full of more holes than swiss cheese, and I can't have a bit of fun at his agenda.
- pavlovs_dog0
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- TheTick0
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- version30
sometimes i believe that discipler is related to pat robertson. i can't respect a man that supports his views. that's just how it has to be.
- todelete__20
kona, it ceased being "to each his own" when they wanted to start teaching it in public schools.
mrdobolina
(Oct 7 05, 10:21)only you would take a newstoday general statement and turn it into world politics.
and you, of all people can call someone a 'prude' in the bike pub crawl site you're doing this weekend.
funny stuff.
- TheTick0
"There is another possibility, of course, and it is both the most reasonable and least odious: the biblical God is a fiction. As Richard Dawkins has observed, we are all atheists with respect to Zeus and Thor. Only the atheist has realized that the biblical god is no different. Consequently, only the atheist is compassionate enough to take the profundity of the world's suffering at face value. It is terrible that we all die and lose everything we love; it is doubly terrible that so many human beings suffer needlessly while alive. That so much of this suffering can be directly attributed to religion -- to religious hatreds, religious wars, religious delusions, and religious diversions of scarce resources -- is what makes atheism a moral and intellectual necessity. It is a necessity, however, that places the atheist at the margins of society. The atheist, by merely being in touch with reality, appears shamefully out of touch with the fantasy life of his neighbors."
- DrHuxtable0
Apparently discipler left. If you are still lurking about, I would like to see some links to credible scientific journals in which papers have been published with a conclusion pointing to an "Intelligent Designer." I understand most journals require subscriptions, but show me an abstract or something. I should be able to find the article since I work for a medical college and can access their subscription on-line or through the library.
I really find your point in saying the science points to it, when all you can show are links to "talk origins" and "action bio science," weak.
- DrHuxtable0
only you would take a newstoday general statement and turn it into world politics.
kOna
(Oct 7 05, 10:59)Actually that was the whole point of starting this thread kona ... was ID does not belong in schools.
- todelete__20
well sir, MY comment was geared towards the constant struggle between diciplers personal belief in god and mrdobolina's personal goal to disprove it.
- discipler0
DrHuxtable -
peer reviewed papers:
http://www.discovery.org/scripts…sites/organizations supporting ID:
http://www.discovery.org
http://www.ideacenter.org
http://www.arn.org
http://www.designinference.com/
http://www.idthefuture.com/
http://www.evolutionnews.org/
http://www.iscid.org/
- ukit0
I really find your point in saying the science points to it, when all you can show are links to "talk origins" and "action bio science," weak.
DrHuxtable
(Oct 7 05, 11:00)Seriously. It's like, on one side we have...a think tank started by a conservative politician. On the other side...the entire scientific community. And this is supposed to be a debate? Only in America...
- Dr_Jay0
ugh... the arrogance of thinking you know God & his plan.
Your kind of faith is a psychological disorder on par with schizophrenia.
- version30
- out.
discipler
(Oct 7 05, 10:46)
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god doesn't love liars
- TheTick0
wow. Dr Jay and Dr Huxtable in the same thread. Wow.
- mrdobolina0
kona, it ceased being "to each his own" when they wanted to start teaching it in public schools.
mrdobolina
(Oct 7 05, 10:21)only you would take a newstoday general statement and turn it into world politics.
and you, of all people can call someone a 'prude' in the bike pub crawl site you're doing this weekend.
funny stuff.
kOna
(Oct 7 05, 10:59)Prude? gimme a fucking break...
- discipler0
Tick -
You have not displayed that you know anything about the true science being discussed in this debate. You simply try to make legitimate issues into political and religious conspiracies. Why? Because that's what interests you and you see it as a way to feign the upper hand in a discussion.
And nobody really seems to understand the science here, except maybe mikotondria.
To this day, in conflict with what you just said, I have answered directly, the key questions and have tried to directly answer the legitimate questions posed by others in these discussions (keeping in mind there is 1 of me and a thousand of those who oppose me - though they may not be sure why). The burden lies with you to produce a single straw man argument (to understand straw man arguments: http://www.fallacyfiles.org/stra…) that I have put up and demonstrate how I'm "not credible". Again, give it shot.
Finally, my entire argument is based on the latest in scientific discovery. Your heckling (which is all it amounts to) is based on a philosophical bias, adopted from your political and philosophical gurus, which smacks of pseudo-intellectualism and an avoidance of the real issues.
So, I would conclude that it is your argument that is built on fiction... and agenda of course.
- todelete__20
"Benson
I have been on nearly every bike pub crawl in BV and they are tons of fun. You people are prudes."
straight from the horse's mouth.
that's why i found it funny you calling someone a prude. sorry, just crossed me as being funny.