Intelligent design
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- mrdobolina0
You are incorrect. I believe Jesus Christ walked the Earth.
How about you do something around here except stir up shit for once, Garrett.
I take part in many other topics as well as helping when I can, FMT, the print exchange, type connect and a million other activities around here.
So eat a bag of dicks.
- TheTick0
There is no serious debate in the scientific community about the theory of evolution. However there is tons of debate on Jesus existence. Should we teach that in schools? You know what, yes, let's do that...starting on the same day ID starts getting taught we should, in fairness to our students, because you know, we want to be fair and not deprive them of knowledge, in our History classes let's study the rise of christianity and the differnet theories about the existence/non-existence of the Jesus figure. And let's also teach about the Gnostic gospels, you know the gospels that got left out of the New Testament...hmmmm...wow..so much else we need to teach our young children about this stuff...oh, and as christianity as being part of a larger jewish heretical movement ongoing at the time..I mean it is historical, right? And there is controversey about the Jesus figure - we should teach the controversy, right?
- discipler0
pavlov, denial ain't just a river in egypt.
You can say til you are blue in the face that there's no debate about evolution amongst evolutionists, but you are either deliberately deceiving or just ignorant of the facts.
I'm collecting articles about such controversy. I'll post them shortly.
- discipler0
your question shows your misunderstanding, dobs.
ID is current science which sees design in biological systems.
Nothing to do with religion. You clearly didn't read the link I posted for you above. The "religion" comes into play after ID science has been left behind and people begin asking WHO the designer is. I think your disconnect is in understanding when something should be categorized as science and when it should be categorized as theology.
- mrdobolina0
you compartmentalize it. I see it as all one issue, discipler.
- discipler0
oh liquid, just sit back relax and be happy about the fact that science points decidedly toward a purposeful creator.
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- lowimpakt0
witchcraft and sorcery i tell you.
- DrHuxtable0
First link is what I was looking for.
" Finally, my entire argument is based on the latest in scientific discovery."
Just cause its the latest doesn't mean its the greatest. Just because some science is old, doesn't make it bad.
I appreciate the link. Should be interesting reading.
- discipler0
http://www.evolutionnews.org/200…
"This is an activist judge who has delusions of grandeur.
Anyone who thinks a court ruling is going to kill off interest in intelligent design is living in another world," continued West. "Americans don't like to be told there is some idea that they aren't permitted to learn about. It used to be said that banning a book in Boston guaranteed it would be a bestseller. Banning intelligent design in Dover will likely only fan interest in the theory."
- discipler0
You didn't pay attention, Kuzz. If you read the preface to the article, it is set in the future - 2025. Please pay closer attention.
And the Christian church never believed the sun revolved around the earth. That is a myth, that careful study will reveal. :)
Oh, and Jonathan Wells is not a Christian.
- discipler0
And have you read any other books on this issue, like...
Icons Of Evolution
The Design Revolution
The Naked Emperor
Darwin On Trial
The Case For A Creator...just curious.
- Baskerville0
no no, dobs. I said, and watch carefully.... all THINGS WITH A BEGINNING need a first cause. God, by definition, is without beginning so therefore does not require a cause.
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OMG listen to yourself! If it's so easy for you to believe god is infinite why is it so hard to believe that the universe is infinite. It's the same concept except it's easier to believe the universe is infinite because at least you can see it.
- Mimio0
//Christians are quite scientifically adept Mr. Dobolina...for instance they believe women can spontaeneously generate their own children and that humans can fly and walk on water.
- pavlovs_dog0
wait.. is it too late to change my mind?
- discipler0
Feeling the LoveToday™.
Makes me want to embrace the liberal ideology. Where do I sign up!?
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- KuzII0
Kuzz, you are simply pasting the propaganda and lies that you are finding on internet searches. :)
It's nonsense. A again, notice it avoids the science. ;)
discipler
(Nov 9 05, 07:00)no seriously discipler, that is what happened. You can ask Behe himself! There was no peer-review! I'll go through some of the other claims you want.. But you can see that from Atchinsons own words, he's got no reason to discredit ID, being a god botherer himself
- discipler0
Tick, I don't think anybody sane or without a serious agenda would dispute Christ's existance. The dispute about Christ usually centers around his claims to divinity.
- ukit0
So we go all the way up to the most important part, the beginning of life, and then we say, oops, science doens't cover that - go read a Bible. What a joke.
- discipler0
just teach them good science, I say.
and leave out the Materialistic philosophy masquerading as science. ;)
- garettwest0
garrette, you never know how many people are lurking and reading these threads and who are actually intellectually honest and want to honestly look at these issues. They may see a link or a book title and investigate it. :)
discipler
(Nov 9 05, 08:07)Couldn't they have read the exact same responses, links and answers back in posts 1-50?
This topic in it's entirity (posts, links and responses) is like a broken record.