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- SteveJobs0
the hatred toward conservatives here is the same hatred that fuels wars. event as a liberal, i say that you many of you are hypocrits.
- Mimio0
C'mon Nader people...help us get rid of Bush. Revamping the party system isn't appropriate this time around.
- derek30
i am 25% native...
so no one knows i am based on my looks... i just tan really well... :)
- vespa0
anger and hatred aren't the same thing.
- Mimio0
Right, liberals are known to support war mongering while employing fear tactics to create party cohesion.
end sarcasm
Sounds like a religion to me.
- toastie0
SteveJobs, it's not a hatred toward conservatives, it's a hatred toward the current fascist administration. The people that refuse to see through its constant lies are only ignorant.
- gruntt0
POLITICS THREAD!!!
jeeeeeezus people.
- Elfangio0
SteveJobs, it's not a hatred toward conservatives, it's a hatred toward the current fascist administration. The people that refuse to see through its constant lies are only ignorant.
toastie
(nov 2 04, 07:51)Or maybe also fascists...
- pascii0
...and if you vote for the monkey, please don't forget that those who decide take responsibility. and in the case of this election, you take responsibility for many places on that globe.
- shaft0
Despite there being a marked shift to the right throughout european politics?
you're very informed shaft.
MX_OnD
(nov 2 04, 07:43)
-----------------------I'm afraid it's temporary. And a lot of the 'right wing' are not right wing liberals, but national socialists - they are dangerous, just like nazis.
The left wing have the time. They will wait and make Marx dreams come true.
I believe in EU of independent nations tied by an agreement allowing free transfer of people and goods. Europe's strength would come from internal competition, not from unification. IMO, ofc.
- SteveJobs0
"The people that refuse to see through its constant lies are only ignorant."
but you call them ignorant and show hatred towards them for their beliefs. you don't respect their decisions because you 'know' you are correct.
- pascii0
shaft, sorry. you talk a lot of nonsense
- Elfangio0
yeah shaft, lots of nonsence...
- toastie0
SteveJobs,
I don't respect their beliefs at all. They support an administration that's dangerous, intolerant and downright scary. It's a sick plastic smile mentality that people have in this fucking country about having opinions. "Ohh, it's ok that you feel that people should have equal rights and we should live in peace, it's your choice, now let me choose to hate fags and niggers cause it's my right." Fuck that, I don't respect someone's opinion when they're talking about very basic moral values.
- vespa0
I'm afraid it's temporary....
The left wing have the time. They will wait and make Marx dreams come true.shaft
(nov 2 04, 08:01)
--------------------Do you have a direct line to god or do you know something else about the future that we mortals don't?
- kingjulien0
The only thing more annoying than hicksville religious right conservatism--and believe me, these people are retarded-- is the kind of liberal elitism that oversimplifies politics and forces their twisted sense of morality on people who should be able to think on their own. These people follow politics when it's convenient, don't participate in improving this country on a day to day basis, but then get all defiant in their one act of good citizenship--which boils down to clicking a couple of bubbles on a machine every 4 years and sending links to conspiracy theories about oil companies, and then judge everybody else who dares to play devil's advocate.
And let's be clear, Bush's war in Iraq is problematic for a number of reasons, but any comparison with Hitler is beyond retarded. Hitler exterminated 6 million jews. Enough said.
I would love to vote Bush out of office, but when the best candidate is some guy we really don't know anything about, whose beliefs are poll-driven, whose personality is at best dull, who lacks charisma and a sense of inspiration, it seems pointless. Yes, kerry seems like a more viable option, but it still feels like a choice between the lesser of two evils.
I can't wait until this whole mess is over. Either way, the war isn't going to end soon, I'm still going to be broke, I still won't have health insurance or dental insurance, and there will still be partisan spinning and jerkoffs holding signs that say "no war for oil" and blocking traffic as I try to get home after a 12 hour day, and Michael Moore can return to his penthouse and private jet to once again represent the blue collar people with his inhcoherant nonsense....
Ah, yes, democracy at work...
- SteveJobs0
"now let me choose to hate fags "
first of all, not all conservative are against gays. and i would say less 'hate' them. but don't vote for kerry either. he feels the same as bush on the topic of gays and lesbians. the only difference is his feelings of 'open' gays in the military.
- Elfangio0
Is it true that the US military budget next year is HALF of the intire world together!?!
WTF
- toastie0
kingjulien, you have to look also at the kind of people that are behind the candidates. Bush himself doesn't scare me. Dick Chaney, Paul Wolfowitz and Donald Rumsfeld do.
- SteveJobs0
also, i'm not talking about respecting their beliefs, i'm talking about respecting their decisions which are based on their beliefs. these people were raised to believe the way they do because it's what they 'know' to be right - just as stronly as you believe that you are right.