For a better tomorrow

  • CGN5
  • hedge0

    Your Business Cards

    I prefer this style

    • it even has a watermarkhedge
    • thats a bad cardESPtype
    • and there you go...TaylorB
    • Wrong. It is glorious in it's modern and simplistic design.hedge
    • what exactly is modern about thisESPtype
    • fake card! so shut it.akrokdesign
    • Dudes, it's from american psycho.. Doye.brains
    • boring carddrgs
    • +2 for A.P. reference.doesnotexist
    • oh...that's so true... good call on the A.P. reference. That's such a great scene.TaylorB
    • dude hedge... whats your deal?joseprieto
    • do we really have to go through this again..... its from A.P.jackpam
    • the 555 in the phone number is a tip off of TV fakeness.CyBrainX
  • bklyndroobeki6

    where u at

    kind of nice to travel thru QBN. thanks you all :)

    • i love this thread, keep it goingfeel
    • Does it have to be in the city? Or not too far away from the city? Not that I always fallow rules but just asking.pango
    • Where ever ya are! No pulling shots from the internets. Would love to see shots taken within the last 12 hrs. Just use yer discretion.bklyndroobeki
    • http://img.pandawhal…moldero
    • discretion, ... meaning, pango i don't want any one to stalk you.bklyndroobeki
    • hhaah, tx moldybklyndroobeki
    • ha it's not like i'm gonna post my house number.pango
    • stranger things have happenedbklyndroobeki
    • kiddingbklyndroobeki
    • Good thread!set
  • CygnusZero46

    Mayweather / Pacquiao

    Yea I paid $90 for this horseshit, and spend the duration of the match watching tom brady wondering why he paid to go see that. Probably the worst fight ive ever seen. No wonder ppl switched to UFC.

    I understand Mayweathers style, and hes the best in the world at it so I get all that, but you would think for as big as this was, he would just say fuck it and put it all on the line and put on a damn show. Fight toe to toe and make it one for the ages, but hes a princess and couldnt deliver. For that reason, despite his flawless record, I can never consider him among the best. To me being the best isnt just about record, part of it is putting on a show when it matters most. He failed to me as far as boxing ill just forget about him, but always remember Tyson and some of those other true fighters who went in looking to brawl.

    • couldn't agree more._niko
    • I watched it for free on my mac.utopian
    • It was free in mexicomoldero
    • I was watching the Kentucky Derby earlier and saw Tom Brady there too. Guy had a busy sunday.BH26
    • Not busy. Just an attention whore.iCanHazQBN
    • welp... this is the first time I've ever agreed with a Cygnus Post.Al_dizzle
    • Like Tom Brady doesnt get enough attention without these events lmaoCygnusZero4
    • Yep, totally agreefyoucher1
    • +1Kdbloc
    • He's a princess? Warrior princessgilgamush
  • moldero4
    • This is retarded. The article carries on like Creationism is a valid debate, constantly referring to the common arguments. Are there any creationists on here?Morning_star
    • A long time ago there was a guy on here who would do nothing but argue about creationism.yuekit
    • I guess he's not around any more. Shame ;)Morning_star
    • the scientific process does'nt work in terms of disproof. prove the validity of a theory and is precludes other theories. disproving things is a waste of timegilgamush
    • makes no sense to try to prove the absence of something. similar to a double negative, its not a productive line of reasoninggilgamush
    • I think Gramme believes in creationism.iCanHazQBN
    • Great... Not another friggin salad...pango
    • lolinteliboy
    • Science did prove the validity of the theory that the planet is very old. Not a waste of time at all, especially when disproving religious nut job theories.monospaced
    • I agree that creationism has zero scientific merit and evolution is basicly fact. My disagreement with your theological stance mono is that you are invested ingilgamush
    • Debunking other peoples faith. Leave them alone bro, ignorance is bliss. They can have a perfectly full life without ever considering ceolacanths etcgilgamush
    • first, I have no theological stance since I don't believe in god(s), and I am certainly not invested in debunking anyone's myths.monospaced
    • you seem to think I was the one who is posting these thingsmonospaced
    • you clearly have me mistaken for someone else around heremonospaced
    • OK, that's fine. My original point being that science has no need to react to the folks who are speaking from a place of faith as apose to a position of evidencgilgamush
    • Science and faith go wonderfully hand in hand.breadlegz
    • All the animosity towards organized religion I see in here is very misplaced. People have done alotta nasty shit in gods name, blah blah, that's irrelevant.gilgamush
    • Bottom line is that if someone out there derives personal strength from a belief you view as irrational, you have no business trying to sway them otherwisegilgamush
    • dude, you were the one who posted the article about the nigerian, and don't even try to imply that wasn't supposed to be ridiculing.monospaced
    • but I agree, the scientific community should never have to defend itself against myth-based agendas and ideas.monospaced
    • Evolution is still a theory right? It hasn't been proven nor disproven. We are presented with findings and reasoning, but no facts. Just sayin.robthelad
    • Evolution is a scientific theory, which is as close to proof as can be achieved. The evidence is overwhelming, and almost nothing exists to disprove it.monospaced
    • The facts supporting it fill entire rooms of papers and physical evidence all around the world. It's a staggeringly huge amount of facts.monospaced
    • Do you know how the first organism evolved from rain on rock, billions and billions of years ago? And how "nothing" exploded to make a big bang?robthelad
    • P.S. I'm not a Troll. I like the idea of creationism, and evolution, and how churches have "incorporated" the theory into the bible teachings.robthelad
    • Nobody knows for certain the exact process of how life began, but there are some very strong scientific models that aim at a real understanding of its origins.monospaced
    • and i think it's admirable that mankind seeks the answer, and doesn't give up and just say, "ah, some omnipotent invisible power made it, so no bother looking."monospaced
    • Ha, I've seen that banned TED talk that seemed quite convincing, but of course, Psychedelics were involved in the revelation. I like questions.robthelad
    • what was that banned ted talk about?moldero
    • this one?
      https://www.youtube.…
      moldero
    • Yep. TED looked proper dicks after banning that.Morning_star
    • cool thanks MS :)moldero
    • have you watched it Moldero?Morning_star
    • not yet, though i did download it to watch latermoldero
  • set6

    Universal Social Icon

    Could be as simple as this

    • this I think works well, and I really haven't seen it before in widespread usemonospaced
    • good mix of notification, chat bubble and emoticon, indicates interaction and people, I likemonospaced
    • I like this directiongoldieboy
    • no. emoticons are like a thing.docpoz
    • ^ What mono said.
      Good one, I like that.
      grotesk_neue
    • but it's racist. SJWs will be triggeredGnash
    • Has got a Sambo flavor to it, doesn't it?_salisae_
    • Gets my vote too.Bilious_Fog
    • not good for universal use because it has a specific emotion. this share button on a cancer research website?mekk
    • Cancer patients can be happy too. I see what you mean but I think it's Dar too specific an issue. It could use some work to look like talking rather than...set
    • ...smiling, though.set
    • You might have to have "share" written next to it for awhile before it becomes used regularly.monospaced
    • lol, ITS NOT SHAREset
    • my badmonospaced
    • :)set
    • i don't see it.
      it's a smile in a knocked out circle. the mouth does not indicate much else but a smile.
      bklyndroobeki
    • It's a chat bubble. Implies communication.monospaced
    • hahahaha... black face.pango
    • something funny here pango?bklyndroobeki
    • he was laughing at the Sambo flavor comment abovemonospaced
  • scarabin4
    • Only christian or all religious organization?pango
    • My guess all of the bullshitters combinedmoldero
    • ^ Moldy is jaded by Christianity. bias is deep in this one.yurimon
    • That makes no sense yurimon.monospaced
    • get of my d mono, serious. its pretty obvious he is on crusade on every post.yurimon
    • Lol can you read Yuri? Mildly mentioned no Christian on this post.pango
    • Mildly moldypango
    • lets ignore corporations or the core facts of this issue of why people are on welfare. why it has increased.yurimon
    • what could we have done with the bankers bail out? trillions of dollars? or war money spent? prob not much?yurimon
    • you're right, yuri. let's ignore every other issue in the world because those issues exist.scarabin
    • and what's wrong with being on a crusade against christianity? they've been on a crusade against everyone else for over 2000 yearsscarabin
    • you might as well be christian with that comment... your not going to focus on the core of our corruption and poverty such as banking?. ic. makes sense.yurimon
    • you guys fackin ap yo.yurimon
    • One issue at a time man. Quite distracting this issue with another issue.pango
    • no, i'm going to stay on topic like a normal personscarabin
    • Churches should pay taxes like every other business.eelphin
  • monospaced2

    blog

    If we all Flag a post as inappropriate or spam, will it go away?

    • just curious, I know it's a bad practicemonospaced
    • my guess is an alert gets sent to the powers that bemoldero
    • It shows up in a page that we moderators can see, and then act on it as appropriate. So, basically, I know that yurimon flagged this comment, unnecessarily.mg33
    • I seemonospaced
    • What if you accidentally flag a post? Can you unflag?iCanHazQBN
    • icanhaz - I'm not sure. I've seen stuff flagged that didn't warrant being flagged, and as long as a mod doesn't do anything, it remains visible.mg33
    • yurimon bustedmoldero
    • i was trying to downvote. sorry.yurimon
    • why?scarabin
    • lolmonospaced
    • I thought mods were like priests - can't name namesGnash
    • except they're not priest.pango
    • and THEY DO!moldero
    • oh man... where's that MJ Popcorn gif?bklyndroobeki
  • uan14
    • perfect! we got it, let’s call it a day, guys!pressplay
    • well, on a second thought, it doesn’t really say interaction. guess we need a couple of arrows.pressplay
    • and while you’re at it, throw in a twitter bird flapping around with an instagram camera icon round it’s neck.pressplay
    • love the Illuminati triangle... nice touch =DmonNom
    • Haha. Client designed logoset
    • lol, perfectyuekit
    • level illuminati and shitpinkfloyd
    • illuminatti sees your clouddocpoz
    • I like how it's racial segregated.i_monk
    • hahahaha i love you guysfeel
    • white guys look like cock and ballsdirtydesign
    • you would i_monkbklyndroobeki
    • seriously, why are their dicks hanging out?pinkfloyd
    • Because that's what people do onlineyuekit
    • qbn. where shit gets one.docpoz
    • *donedocpoz
    • LOL. Only needs more penis from georges.grotesk_neue
    • haha! QBN = best online community.Krassy
    • It's like an invasion of flying men with big dicks hoveringpinkfloyd
    • This is art.BabySnakes
  • benfal991

    Making money online

    Just opened a shop on etsy to sell illustrations downloadable as high res jpg. Perfect for desktop wallpaper and i included a version for iPhone wallpaper.

    Only 1,63$ at http://goo.gl/iCDCGA

    Who will be my first customer? :D

    • I would but its too dark for my taste.yurimon
    • "1,63$"
      Ok the English thing I get, but these are god damn numbers Benfal99!
      moldero
    • whut? sorry moldero, i dont get what you just saidbenfal99
    • that's how numbers are in some countries, moldymonospaced
    • 1?fadein11
    • oops, my bad :) sorry benfal :)moldero
    • so Canada does '1,63$' and not '$1.63' or both maybe?moldero
    • $1,63 is the French way. The rest of us do $1.63.ETM
    • Meaning French Canadians tend to do it.ETM
    • just buy my shit ffs and stop talking abou tthat! LOL ;-)benfal99
    • haha, i do likemoldero
    • Damn French Canadian! Stop pretending to be French! Lolpango
    • Using a comma instead of a dot drives me insane...zarkonite
    • $2.05 for canadian?!? That's racist!pango
    • Lolpango
    • I don't understand this illuminati pricing systempinkfloyd
    • Actually, the 'x,xx $' format is correct ... even in quebecois. Just not in English.Continuity
    • g,f,yset
    • $g.f.ymoldero
  • TheGreatGlorpo5

    why is this not true?

    Yuriman, I need you to prove that this isn't true. Are you up for the challenge?

    This is from someone in the know. Their words:
    I was told recently by an Agency Insider that there is a global conspiracy regarding what is done with circumsised foreskins.

    Basically the God of Abraham (the God of Christians, Muslims and Jews) is an extraterrestrial creature that feeds on foreskins.

    Somewhere in a secret location priests in ancient robes shovel foreskins into the creature's mouth every second of every minute of every day.

    If they ever cease the supply of foreskins pouring into the beasts maw, the creature will destroy the earth.

    Thats why Christians oppose abortions and birth control. The whole "pro life" movement is too make sure enough children are born to provide the needed foreskins, which increases every year.

    That is why there has been a massive population explosion. the worlds leaders are scrambling to ensure an adequate supply of flesh foreskins.

    Have you been circumcised? If so the creature has tasted of your flesh, and an unbreakable bond has been created between you.

    When you die your soul will emit a resonance that the creature recognizes from the taste of your foreskin and it calls you to it. You will then reside for eternity in a false heaven created by the alien creature for its
    amusement.

    Fortunately I have not been circumcised, so I will go to real heaven.

    This is insider information. I am in great danger for even posting this.

    I personally dont believe this Insider at all. I believe in a loving God who has Forgiven our sins through Jesus Christ and the Teachings of Mohammad and the Torah and Quran and the Laws and the Prophets.

    But the Gnostics say that the God of the bible is a false god, really the devil.

    The DEMIURGE

    • you are doing the same thing pango is doing with the parody salad. More of comedy routine at this point and mocking however if you read my earlier response youyurimon
    • can have an idea of what im talking about.yurimon
    • The point is, You can't disprove it!
      The silly salad is only as silly as your silly video.
      pango
    • That is a crazy story! I always thought foreskins were repurposed as cheap fried calamari rings.mg33
    • Break it down and it's the same shit yurimon. There's no other way to put it. You're showing some crazy shit and asking to disprove it. That simple.monospaced
    • And even if that stupid shit is real, I still have to go to work and have a family and watch my shows and go on trips. Big fucking deal. Nobody believes it.monospaced
    • I seriously want you to attempt to talk about design and maybe take this kind of nonsense elsewhere. Internets a big place. please.monospaced
    • And Glorpo. That was Glorious.monospaced
    • mono you are delusional. you lack reading comprehension or something repeating as if you havent read what i posted on this subject earlier.yurimon
    • its ok mono its your choice to be ignant. no pressure i never asked you personally to post in this threadyurimon
    • you fackin ap bro. Am i addicting to reply too or somethingyurimon
    • And there it is. Calling others delusional.pango
    • Mono doesn't lack reading comprehension. He lack any fucks to give to that videopango
    • he keeps ranting off subject, the intent that i expressed already. hes ignoring what i said. its only to be right, nothing elseyurimon
    • he wants to win an argument about how much he doesn't care by posting stuff that shows how much he doesnt care?yurimon
    • Because u are too dumb to see it even with your ancient knowledge. He doesn't care about the video. He can't stand u posting nonesence that annoying everyone.pango
    • And I'm sticking around because you haven't disprove the salad yetpango
    • pango you are like a fly buzzing. you make no sense if he really didnt care he wouldnt post that much to prove it. its not nonsense it a good subject,yurimon
    • I understand that most people dont care to deal in truth especially if it threatens their world view.yurimon
    • if you post cats, people are happy however but deep thinking subjects. not so happy.yurimon
    • No it isnt. And so many people disagree with you too. It seems like you don't want to disprove the salad is it cuz it might make your original video look silly?pango
    • I'm like a fly?? You should really take a look at your self.pango
    • It's more like I'm chasing the fly right now.pango
    • I was trying to be nice and tell you you are in the wrong place for this. My reading comprehension is as good as it gets. Wish yours was better though.monospaced
    • I dont think its a wrong place. my opinion different then yours. there is a jingle that said i could talk about anything on qbn.com. i know its silly butyurimon
    • any response is ok regardless of what it is. I was hoping a more intellectual one but didnt happen.yurimon
    • at least a couple yes this thread could have been only like 5-10 posts with notes.yurimon
    • That jingle was on april fool only. and it's long passed. you're not still in april fool are you?pango
    • if i had a dollar for every time yurimon called himself intelligent or a "deep thinker"... i'd be dan bilzerianscarabin
    • http://en.wikipedia.…scarabin
    • Of course you CAN talk about anything here. Nobody's suppressing you. We're simply suggesting that you don't since it's not well-received. Lighten up.monospaced
    • lighten up. I never see myself as superior so keep guessing in your attempt try to be right scarybin. i question everything always try to evolve, nothing likeyurimon
    • you are sayin.yurimon
    • this whole thread has been you saying you're superior. you can't possibly be that blindscarabin
    • it's just been one long angry wank for youscarabin
    • i dont know how you get this when i ask for a historical opinion to disprove something repeatedly. am I dealing with frail egos here? just let me know.yurimon
    • Your'e dealing with people who don't give a fuck about the topic, and who don't have time to watch, and wont' be boethered to reply to a conspiracy theorymonospaced
    • then stop posting and get out of the thread.yurimon
    • plus some conspiracy theories are true now.yurimon
    • make me?monospaced
    • then dont complain you dont care. you want a hug?yurimon
    • Cmon. Still waiting for you to solve the salad=illuminati mystery.pango
  • jaylarson4
    • sorry, big filejaylarson
    • wow, that is cool!cbass99
    • man i wanna build my pyramid there so bad. moon party!scarabin
    • Moontribe headquartersmoldero
    • how do you know about moontribe moldy? lolsea_sea
    • yeah, watscarabin
    • I lived up there for about a year and was friends of friends with some of the promoters, when there was no party we made our own at their warehousemoldero
    • that's supposed to be secret 'n' shitscarabin
    • This was like 20 years ago back in 94 or 95moldero
    • I think the warehouse belonged to tonka sounds, but all the main mt peeps were there. Beautiful peoplemoldero
    • Oops scar, thats why now I'm in hiding in Mexico.moldero
    • lol. crazy how long that party has been goingscarabin
    • Yeah i just tripped out when i counted back 20 yearsmoldero
    • South Pole-Aitken basin, almost 1,500 miles across. Twice the size of Texas.utopian
    • Bartosz Wojczyński http://petapixel.com…jaylarson
    • Cool moldy. My first moontribe was in a warehouse somewhere in Santa Monica around Venice I think it might of been around 94.sea_sea
    • I remember I did half a tab cause it was my first time. Lol didn't feel anything until that morning on the beach. I still have a ring I got at that party :)sea_sea
    • Years after that, I followed them around the desert for a while until I actually got on the email list. I loved being out there under the desert skies.sea_sea
    • awesome! I LOVED those parties, the vibe, well, i dont even have to say it, you know.moldero
    • Yes I do. They're still going strong. Next time you come down we should all take a trip out to the desert.sea_sea
    • yesscarabin
    • OH and nice moon pic jay, lol it really is gorgeous.sea_sea
    • lol at cicijaylarson
  • georgesIII5

    Universal Social Icon

    ok, I give up, I tried uniting the share logo,
    but as you can see, it's sharing way too much

    • hahahaset
    • the overlapping nut sacks express unity, sharing, bonding and a sense of togetherness.utopian
    • Yep, way too much sharing in that one.grotesk_neue
    • this shares the shit out of mesrhadden
    • the balls have lots to giveomg
  • set3

    Universal Social Icon

    This is growing on me

    • speaks more to save than share... heart implies personal? kinda like an instagram like. I do like the icon a lot.monospaced
    • I see what you mean. In a sense you are saving them though if you follow/like them on a social platform. It's showing an interest and keeping tabset
    • Can't believe you're still stuck to this. This screams "I just got my heart checked at the health clinic". Way too medical.iCanHazQBN
    • I don't think heart is the best symbol for social mediareanimate
    • Anyway would it be problematic to use an icon that no one knows the meaning of?reanimate
    • Most commonly used icons have taken years for the public to learn the meaningreanimate
    • True but still, you have to start somewhere.qoob
    • wut mono saidmoldero
    • What moldero saidpango
  • nb35

    why is this not true?

    Yurimon, we're not criticizing the subject matter, we're ignoring it. We're criticizing people like you who won't shut up about it.

    You think you're smarter than everyone and call everyone sheep because you saw some videos and websites that draw conclusions based on a misrepresented quotes and half-true facts from all over the place. This false information feeds your fear, while your narcissistic tendencies help you to assume that there must be some evil thing going on behind the scenes and that you have uncovered some secret truth.

    It's not new, it's boring. You're boring everyone.

    You can't just say "There are boogeymen! And they're trying to control and destroy you! If they don't exist, prove me wrong with facts!" Arguments don't work that way. You don't get to claim nonsense and demand facts from everyone else. It's an old trick used by people who can't make a good argument, and we all see right through it. That's why we don't watch your stupid videos.

    Learn to think for yourself. Read books and be critical of things. Take a journalistic attitude. Be skeptical of sources. But instead of jumping to the most outrageous conclusions, try looking for the simple answer, it's often right there in front of you.

    When you find yourself presented with information, you need to be critical of it. Ask yourself, "Is this really possible? Could this actually be happening? Or is it more likely that my own insecurities are driving me towards believing something. Is it perhaps that I want there to be some grand explanation, so I'm finding it in places that don't exist?"

    You claim that you're smart and thinking critically, but you're just spouting nonsense that we've all heard before and that's why no one cares.

    Or maybe you're just a troll. I don't know.

    • How's the weather up there in that tower nb?Morning_star
    • Thanks for the great wall of text of assumptions and ignorance. but thats not what i asked for. thanks for posting anyway.yurimon
    • I dont understand why its so hard to ask for opposing views with some reference or addition of historical context that disproves something.yurimon
    • especially its a subject that seems to be looked down upon as by many and dismissed with certainty. just saying something is made up without proof isyurimon
    • Not logical. like dismissing something without also is it logical. Why is it that in the conspiracy field there is more historical proof then disproof?yurimon
    • All i see is for some is the being called names and when you ask why and can you prove me other wise, people go ape shit. fuckin crazy phenomenon.yurimon
    • we've told you at length why you can't expect us to do it. try rereading the thread.scarabin
    • but thanks for posting.scarabin
    • What interesting subject? The video? Still nobody watched it LOL thx for posting.pango
    • Obviously you have no answers for me but thanx for posting.yurimon
    • nice try to attempt to change the subject.yurimon
    • front page again.yurimon
    • your answers are all over the page, guy. you've just got your head so far up your ass you can't see them.scarabin
    • thanks for postingscarabin
    • nb. what a post! if I could upvote it more i would.kona
    • sorry bro, you're just being demeaning. pretty lame attempt. i always saw you as bit more logical but thanks for posting.yurimon
    • Why are you speaking for everyone, nb?set
    • Dude, you're asking people to debunk the fucking Illuminati Theory. The most dumb of dumb theories. It seemed plausible when I was about 11 years old. Yawn.nb
    • I speak for the upvoters!nb
    • Still waiting for Yuri to debunk salad=illuminati theory.pango
    • Lol, doesn't really look promising nb. emotional response dont mean much. what you said wasnt well written or true.yurimon
    • Love you yurimon (and everyone else) but the one thing you're in no position to do is criticise posts for not being well written hahaset
    • You are Mr not well writtenset
    • i only check my grammar when i write novels or business correspondence.yurimon
    • proof of the irrationality of the voting system haha http://www.qbn.com/r…yurimon
    • Pinkfloyd is cool. We're just messing with him.pango
    • sureyurimon
    • you write novels...monospaced
    • Yurimon: "Thanks for the great wall of text, but here, watch this 2.5hr video"Nathan_Adams
    • nb - new patronising champion of QBN 2015fadein11
    • a collective iq score of all of qbn?yurimon
    • They all love you yurimonset
    • lol, yeah right haha,yurimon
    • where the party? i just wanna stick my dick in the mash potatoes!necromation
    • I really have a record for most posts front page from my thread.yurimon
    • No you don't. Pic of the day does.HueyGnash
    • truyurimon
  • jtb265

    why is this not true?

    You're kind of asking folks to prove a negative. Providing evidence that something doesn't exist is really difficult.

    For example:

    Theorist: "Prove George Washington wasn't gay."

    Skeptic: "He had a wife!"

    Theorist: "So? He could have been sucking his slaves dick. Prove he didn't."

    Skeptic: "well, there's no historical evidence on the matter either way."

    Theorist: "See! You can't prove it didn't happen!"

    I'm not saying anything against your video one way or the other. In fact, I'm not going to watch it. Just trying to point out that what your asking for is going to be hard to come by.

    • My example is pretty thin. When something doesn't exist, it's really hard to find evidence of it's absence. Absence of evidence isn't necessarily evidence...jtb26
    • of absence. If you want real answers talk to historians. Designers will be of little use.jtb26
    • Don't bother. Yuri is good fun, but to have an actual logical discussion is not going to happen.inteliboy
    • why are we still feeding this thread?Al_dizzle
    • Oh, because at the very least it was a pro level troll. Deserves it's day.jtb26
    • I was kinda hoping for some dramatic meltdown and butt hurt tantrum. We're due for one at least.monospaced
    • lol I like how layback Mono has become compared to before.pango
    • There is no prove a negative from a historical context. plus i wasnt asking for assumptions. you have blind people who call dont believe that there are powerfulyurimon
    • people in this world that can control outcome in a control system. you have sheep who pride themselves on everything has to be proven but yet when you ask themyurimon
    • put aside the name calling and ok what proof do you have that this not true if you think im a nutter. what you get is people going ape shit because they dontyurimon
    • have anything to say but this is bullshit. even scarabin is flaming on that you have to know the bible to disprove via atheism. but somehow that logic isyurimon
    • contradicted with excuses by the very same people who claim the bullshit. its not that im really asking to prove the negative. its that the people who claim itsyurimon
    • its bullshit have no proof to their claim. understand?yurimon
    • They are programmed narrative that in an ego centric fashion masquerades as knowledge of what the world is.yurimon
    • Calm the fuck down. You still don't grasp that nobody gives a shit about the conspiracy video or proof. you are being ridiculous now.monospaced
    • you keep proving you care. thanks for posting.yurimon
    • I think this thread has the record fro front page. I'm qbn world record holder for front page. woohooyurimon
    • And also down votes. Let's not forget that.pango
    • we don't care, we're just bored, and this thread is somewhat of a mild entertaining time waster.inteliboy
    • Once again you confuse our annoyance with caring about your topic. Everyone wants you to go away or just keep being insane for entertainment.monospaced
    • face it maybe you cant handle the truth. maybe its just an attempt for you to try to be a cool Solipsist. if there is such a thingyurimon
    • FUCKING HELL. It's not that I can't handle it... it's that nobody gives a fuck and still isn't watching that stupid youtube video. Why do you not get this?monospaced
    • it made front page its obviously important and an involved subject that involves time emotion and effort. all elements of caring.yurimon
    • it's only as important as other things on the front page. like this potato. http://img1.wikia.no…pango
    • http://img1.wikia.no…pango
    • yet, nobody's actually discussing it, lolmonospaced
    • There are people who control the world. Their called Governments and Corporations. They are scary enough. I'd worry about them.jtb26
    • "even scarabin is flaming on that you have to know the bible to disprove via atheism" no, i was pointing out that you missed the joke in something you posted.scarabin
    • haha you just found that? pages of text.yurimon
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  • Horp4

    Getting older and working in design

    I'm 45. I started in graphic design for print at 15, and I gave it up around 2005 with a sideways segue into illustration. I saw the same thing happening to illustration as design so I lost interest and got out (1. It was overpopulated and therefore the value plummeted 2. It started to get invaded by a lot of computer complexity that I didn't wish to learn 3. It became very client driven as opposed to creative-leading).

    I dropped all creative pursuits entirely in 2009 and have never been back. I shifted into an area of consultancy and being seen as an 'expert' in an area that involves cultural insight, strategy, and material culture analysis. It was the best leap sideways I could make with the skills that I could repackage and transfer somewhere new.

    What I know is that I could never go back. I wouldn't earn what I earn from being in any of my previous roles (designer, creative director, art director, illustrator), I am definitely too old to learn the kinds of tricks it requires to survive now, and life is a lot less stressful once you step away from 'creative'.

    However, I couldn't say exactly that I'm happy. There's a whole lot of feel good self-identity stuff in defining yourself as somebody who makes their world work via creativity, and you simply do not get that when you step out of that mind-state and into an office/corporate environment where you are not judged, evaluated or appreciated for your creative production. In many ways I feel like Ray Liotta at the end of Goodfells.. a shclub, standing on his doorstep in his slippers, missing the energy and excitement of the old life... but I'm secure, I have a good income, my employers really value me, and life is generally a lot more stable and less fraught.

    I would never go back... I wouldn't want to even if I could, but I will always look back fondly on those times, which have now largely gone... or at least evolved into something radically different.

    • Spelling error: I meant Schlub, not S-Club7Horp
    • Interesting. Are you in a large city? Who are your clients?formed
    • I've often wondered about a similar transition.formed
    • S-Club7 probably have the same feelings.Fax_Benson
    • I'm in London. I work for a consultancy so we have a very broad range of clients. Some are very interesting and exciting, some are terrible.Horp
    • Interested in how you went about making the move sideways?dee-dubs
    • I've always believed that if you identify with your core skills rather than your vocation, you can go almost anywhere, even if it takes a couple of leaps.Horp
    • So you have a full time gig at a consulting company? I like your thinkingformed
    • I always thought you were THE horp lolfadein11
    • oops sorry my mistake - had a moment there.fadein11
    • Sounds like you're a little happier than before, at least Horp old fruit. You seemed to be carrying an ever present feeling of inadequacy and...set
    • ... the impending doom of being fired at any minute. Are you feeling like they value your shizzle?set
    • Also I really wanted to lay down an S club 7 joke but I have nothing.set
    • I think I'm a little more settled into this reality, and I've been doing it long enough that the private feeling of being an imposter has faded...Horp
    • ... I don't know for sure that I'm happier, but I'm less unsure now. As designers we combine personal passions with business. Divorce that, and you get two...Horp
    • distinct entities. I work, and it pays well, and it isn't awful, but I don't LOVE it. It doesn't define me or make me happy. So I now pursue other things that..Horp
    • bring happiness. I have an old racing car I work on and drive. It's what I love. As a designer, we tend to love 'designy stuff'.Horp