Russia-Ukraine Invasion
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- _niko9
This war was meant to be a flex on Putin's part and it's going shitingly bad.
On the one hand every nation should be in charge of its own destiny, allowed to make its own rules and govern how it sees fit, unfortunately in the case of theocratic dictatorships in the Middle East, banana republics in S America and N Korea and the likes, this comes at the expense of the liberty and happiness of its people especially the lower rungs of society.
A just, fair prosperous and free new world order is what's needed, unfortunately, it can't be in the image of the shitshow that the US has become.
So Putin was left with little choice in his mind other than to show the world the might of the soviet empire (complete with rusty tanks and state of the art equipment of the 1950's) and the he wouldn't bend the knee to the they/thems and the queers of the world, so war was the only option.
And what would it cost him? best case scenario, they rolled into Kyev with little resistance and annexed all of Ukraine in a few days. Worst case scenario, the war drags on and he sends a million or so uneducated, drunkards and literal criminals to the slaughter, who needs those dregs anyway?
But it's gone worse than that. way worse. He was afraid of NATO boxing him in and now that's exactly what he got, except with a willing participant to go toe to toe with him and actually USE those NATO weapons directly.
All the alliances with South Africa, Belarus, N Korea, Serbia, Wakanda and fucking Disneyland will not help him.
He's a laughing stock, a inept madman with a Napoleon complex. Unfortunately one who also has the ability to press a little red button and end us all.
- election such?sted
- This is why I'm pitching my tent in Canada. That country is poised to become a regional hegemon. Equal in size to the US and as abundant in natural resources,Khurram
- not to mention more fresh water than any other nation on earth (a key commodity in the coming century).Khurram
- Global warming that will render vast tracts of currently uninhabitable land ripe for exploitation and agricultural development.Khurram
- Not to mention a government targeting 500,000 new immigratnts every year, our current population of 40 million can EASILY accomodate half a billion people,Khurram
- if not a billion by 2200;Khurram
- I invite all the slavic types, the refugees from the wars of Europe, not to mention (ater the reconquest of Palestine) the slavic types in Israel,Khurram
- to come to Canada as compatriots, to cast aside your old-world identities and build your new Jerusalem here,Khurram
- And make our neighbours to the south lick our boots.Khurram
- And Europe, is destined to be nothing more than a zit on the arse cheek of Western Eurasia (back to historical norms)Khurram
- Actually, scratch that - a newly militarized and emboldened Germany is set to dominate that continent - which has been the German destiny since Bismarck.Khurram
- Then we'll see what'll happen to your peripheral ethno-linguistic nationalisms. Your imagined communities.Khurram
- Unfortunately, the current hegemon, won't go down easy; at least not if that senile/belligerent cocksucker in the whitehouse has anything to do with it.Khurram
- That grinning ghoul Joe mother fucking Brandon. FUCK HIMKhurram
- Discuss.Khurram
- Canada is gonna have problems in the Arctic. We don’t have enough of a navy to deal with the north border issues that are already starting to bubbleGnash
- I'm sure we can buy some more de-commissioned leaky subs from some third world drug runners Gnash_niko
- @Kuhrram Sounds great. How can I get an invite?instrmntl
- @Gnash - we will build a navy god dammit! Global warming is going to place us in PRIME position for global domination :))Khurram
- @instmintl - it's pretty easy right now. We have a points system for migration. 500,000 newcomers expected every year for the next decade. Come one come all!Khurram
- how's your French??Khurram
- @_niko - I gotta call you up on you equating South Africa with Wakanda or any other such imaginary non-entity, however.Khurram
- Brazil, South Africa, India - 3 major Democratic powers from 3 continents; all sidling up to Russia.Khurram
- "Western secular democratic values" vs "Tyranny" - mmm, not so much.Khurram
- "Sidling up to" wow we're all terrified. Meanwhile > 300 tanks going to Ukraine from democratic countries.yuekit
- https://twitter.com/…yuekit
- But anyways, Canada should launch a special operation to annex Washington, Oregon and California from the USA.yuekit
- lol. ok man. Who's "we" lolKhurram
- At that point they will be positioned for global dominance under dictator Justin Trudeau. Control the tech industry, control the world.yuekit
- There you go again with your simplistic narratives you simple little man.. "we" lolKhurram
- Terrify who? You're the ones with the tanks. You yuekit, You "YOU" lol. What a fucking dumbass.Khurram
- So you're American now? I seeeeeeKhurram
- I used to read your posts in an Asian accent and I thought you were one of those Hong Kongers nostalgic for British Imperial rule.Khurram
- Probably because your sentence structures are so simple. But you're a straight up Yank. Now that explains a lot.Khurram
- In that case, I apologise for calling you a banana. Ha!Khurram
- "your sentence structures are so simple"
Kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of insults here huh?yuekit - And what's all this weird stuff about my background? We're all just human beings man. My nationality is planet Earth.yuekit
- Your mistake is that much like Putin, Trump and other right-wing nationalists you start off trying to stereotype people and put them in categories.yuekit
- Also this narrative about the Global South being on the side of Russia...
https://pbs.twimg.co…yuekit - They all had a chance to support Russia directly on a vote over whether the invasion was wrong. Only 4 countries voted against this...Belarus, Syria, Eritreayuekit
- and North Korea. Most countries in South America and Africa voted for the resolution condemning Russia.yuekit
- interesting take KhurramIRNlun6
- I'd argue the future looks more like global corporate tyranny marketed as democracy, but that doesn't necessarily change your theory.IRNlun6
- With the rise of AI, quantum computing, gene editing, who knows what the world will look like in 5-10 years.IRNlun6
- I also agree with Khurram that Canada will probably take over the world. But first Justin Trudeau will need to become dictator for life, crushing his enemiesyuekit
- like he did with the Canadian trucker movement.yuekit
- I don't agree on Canada taking over. Sorry but the dollar and the US aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Canada is certainly rich in resources though.IRNlun6
- You're losing your cool you little NAFO terroristKhurram
- PS The tech future belongs to China. Deal with it.Khurram
- PPS Fuck Trudeau an'all. I hate him almost as much as I hate Biden. I hate all you centrist mother fuckers.Khurram
- That's not cool man, you need to uncritically support the leader of your country just like you advocate for the citizens of Russia and China.yuekit
- I'm starting to suspect you might not be a REAL Canadian...real Canadians support Trudeau without ever questioning this choice.yuekit
- I mean look at his socks
https://helios-i.mas…yuekit - It's very cool. I hate all you centrist motherfuckers.Khurram
- You can't even argue anymore. You're hilarious.Khurram
- a story on mass migration, Sri Lankans looking for better opportunities, NGOs promise EU passports, migrants are given Iraq passports...IRNlun6
- Just wondering why the political systems you seem to think are good for developing world people don't apply to Canada.yuekit
- migrants are dumped in Mosul, a balkanized wasteland at this point, with WFP blaring progressive propaganda about diversity...IRNlun6
- WTF are you even talking about.Khurram
- Start a thread you little dickhead and I'll jump in. You'll have no doubt about the "political systems" I advocate for.Khurram
- all groups hate each other since they're in a wasteland, no common bonds aside from poverty, and no opportunities.IRNlun6
- Sounds very depressing IRNlun6 but what's the takeaway? Some people are in tough situations, isn't it better to help them than not to?yuekit
- @Khurram The point is if you favor a system more like China or Russia over liberal democracy, then you should think about what that would look like in your ownyuekit
- Meh, go fuck yourself. You have no idea what I favour.Khurram
- country. It's easy to idealize a place on the other side of the world you never lived in.yuekit
- Russians are neoliberal capitalists just like you cunts.Khurram
- "the point is" ... what a fucking tool.Khurram
- Or on the other hand, if you don't think Russia's form of government is good why would you support them taking over part of Ukraine?yuekit
- They have the same form of corrupt oligarchic capitalist governments lol You don't even have the basic education on these things to comment.Khurram
- Here's something your lying media no longer reports on....Khurram
- https://www.theguard…Khurram
- Whoopsie daisy! Little green RAT.Khurram
- It's not the same. Ukraine has had six presidents since 2000, Russia has had one (and one placeholder).yuekit
- Another one of those pro-Russian media sources I can't stop posting LOL, The Guardian! hahahKhurram
- Just an "actor" just an ordinary "everyman" with off-shore Panama accounts, nothing to see here. Move along. He's OUR MAN lolKhurram
- It's very small time stuff compared to Putin
https://www.icij.org…yuekit - Yes Ukraine had a lot of corruption but they're in the process of joining EU which requires reforming all of that.yuekit
- Yeah i mean, you're comparing apples to oranges, it's not that big of a deal, come on, minors, just minor tings lolKhurram
- Ukraine is moving in a democratic direction, Russia is moving in the direction of being a dictatorship.yuekit
- https://c.ndtvimg.co…
Such a glamorous wife he got lolKhurram - The neo-churchill! little green t-shirted RAT.Khurram
- HAHAHAHA "reforming all of that" . Mmmm ok mate. You win this round you pesky yuekit!Khurram
- I'm an international socialist. I wanna see the end of capitalism in all places everywhere. You have no idea what you're talking about.Khurram
- Do you consider China socialist? What about the USSR?yuekit
- True socialism cannot exist in a sea of rapacious capitalist states. We need a global socialist revolution. Workers of the world unite!Khurram
- Start a thread. I don't have energy for you.Khurram
- So the thing you advocate for doesn't exist anywhere, but you somehow know it's good. Hmmmyuekit
- 'Ukraine is moving in a democratic direction' is that why Green Shirt Guy outlawed all the left-leaning political parties and threatens their members with jail?face_melter
- https://twitter.com/…
Which 'democratic' direction is this? Almost a full house lolface_melter - The SBU have been murdering opposition politicians. Another inconvenient "truth" their media refuses to report on.Khurram
- You're attacking Ukraine for banning pro-Russian political parties, during a time when Russia is invading them? lolyuekit
- Here's an example of a banned political party
https://en.wikipedia…)yuekit - lolKhurram
- "During the Russian military invasion of Ukraine, a number of functionaries of the Nashi party cooperated with the Russian troops and headed theyuekit
- military-civilian administrations in the territories occupied by the Russians."yuekit
- ^^ Little NAFO terrorist over here quoting wikipedia lolKhurram
- This is one of the members of the party, they are now running what's left of Mariupol after it was destroyed by Russia.yuekit
- https://twitter.com/…yuekit
- And remember this is what happened to Mariupol
https://www.youtube.…yuekit - So on one hand you defend Russia's invasion and mass murder, but it's also an outrage if Ukraine punishes anyone collaborating with the invading army.yuekit
- Seems like a difficult needle Ukrainians have to thread, to keep you happy over there in Canada. Of course Ukraine is more democratic than Russia,yuekit
- the fact that "green shirt guy" got elected out of nowhere with a totally new party shows this. Most of the government in Ukraine is younger people in their 40syuekit
- whereas Russia is run by a bunch of aging former KGB officials and led by the same person for two and a half decades.yuekit
- Khurram-3
[H1]Debate: Why Heilbrunn Gets Ukraine and Putin All Wrong[/H1]
[H2]In a recent op-ed, TNI editor Jacob Heilbrunn fundamentally misrepresented the Ukraine conflict, ignoring Russian president Vladimir Putin’s determination to retain Crimea and willingness to deploy nuclear weapons.[/H2]
https://nationalinterest.org/fea…
In an op-ed retweeted and hailed by the Atlantic Council, National Interest editor Jacob Heilbrunn emphasized that Germany’s decision to send tanks to Ukraine will help crush Russia. He underscored several points that led him to the conclusion that Russian president Vladimir Putin has signed his death warrant by invading Ukraine. His assessment was eloquent, sweeping—and wrong.
Heilbrunn is on his strongest ground in arguing that the Western alliance, in contradistinction to what Putin had expected, has cast its die not only to outlast him in Ukraine but also to crush Russian aspirations for hegemony in Europe once and for all. He contended that whereas Berlin’s decision has symbolically freed Germany from the strictures that it operated under after World War II, it has practically liberated countries such as Poland and Finland to transfer German-made tanks to aid a forthcoming Ukrainian offensive this spring. Next he stressed that Putin was time and again wrong in his miscalculation that he would swiftly sweep over Ukraine and break up the Western alliance. Fundamentally, Heilbrunn argued that Putin—by rejuvenating the Western alliance, inadvertently arousing America from its post-Cold War torpor and unifying Ukrainians against him—has faced a “fight to the finish” which he cannot win.
I fully agree with Heilbrunn that Putin has miscalculated. Indeed, he committed a strategic blunder by invading. Moscow has already lost the war for Kyiv. But the story does not end there even if Heilbrunn is too blind to recognize it. The cold, hard truth is that Putin will never concede defeat and will stand his ground in the Crimea and Donbas, which he will fight for until the “finish” using nuclear warheads should the need arise to secure his survival there.
I also fault Heilbrunn for contextualizing the Ukraine crisis within a Western political mindset incognizant of both the weight of history and geography on Russia’s collective consciousness and the ramifications of the crisis for the international order in general and American global power in particular. The notion that Russia aspires for hegemony in Europe is bogus. Whatever policies and actions Moscow has pursued towards Europe have been essentially directed to foil any Western attempt to choke Russia into indefensible borders that would deprive it of a global role. The disintegration of the Soviet Union, the heir of imperial Russia, has transformed a once ambitious and assertive empire into a state striving to conceal its insecurities. Although Russia posed no threat to the West following the collapse of the Soviet Union, NATO has relentlessly expanded to the doorstep of Russia. NATO towered over the historical capital of Peter the Great, and Washington planned to bring Kyiv and Tbilisi into the orbit of NATO, effectively completing the encirclement of Russia. In 2008, the year that President George W. Bush called for extending NATO membership to Ukraine and Georgia, President Dmitry Medvedev addressed Euro-Atlantic security and Russia’s security concerns in Evian, emphasizing:
The real issue is that NATO is bringing its military infrastructure right up to our borders and is drawing new dividing lines in Europe, this time along our western and southern frontiers. No matter what we are told, it is only natural that we should see this as action directed against us.
This expansion of NATO, in the aftermath of the unilateral U.S. invasion of Iraq, compounded by NATO’s key role in ousting Muammar Qaddhafi’s regime in Libya, reified Russian perception of NATO’s leader United States as a global hegemon cavalierly indifferent to Russia’s true national security concerns.
It follows from this that Heilbrunn’s contention that Berlin’s decision to send Leopard tanks to Ukraine to help it battle Russia and to symbolically free Germany from the strictures that it operated under after World War II is imprudent. From the Russian standpoint, this decision conjures up Russian images of German tanks leading the Nazi blitzkrieg into Russia, which was only reversed at a staggering human cost. In fact, this decision flouts the historical ideational foundation that Russia has played a key role in shaping our geopolitical role, which clearly has not yet ended. It is incontrovertible that Moscow’s bloody battles against both Napoleon Bonaparte in 1812 and Adolf Hitler in 1941 paved the way for the success of the Waterloo and Normandy landings, both of which shaped our contemporary geopolitical world.
These feats colored in spilled Russian blood are ingrained in the country’s collective consciousness and psyche that the West tends to forget to the chagrin of Moscow. Freeing up Germany, Poland, and Finland to send German tanks to aid a Ukrainian spring offensive to cross Kherson into the Donbas and Crimea is tantamount to jangling Moscow’s sensitive historical, political, and cultural nerves. Herein lay the Western alliance and Heilbrunn’s misguided view of Russia’s eventual indetermination to hold onto these territories. In other words, the Western alliance is waging a war ignorant of Russia’s red lines and how it may unfold. It is ignoring Russia’s historical, cultural, and political bonds to these territories, and more specifically discounts Russia’s possible wide-ranging responses to defend these territories.
The Donbas has been integral to the formation of Russia and thereafter the Soviet Union since Moscow’s defeat of the Mongols in the fifteenth century. Significantly, Crimea and its vicinity in eastern-southern Russia figured prominently in Moscow’s drive to expand, protect, and project the power of the Tsarist Empire. Early on, Peter the Great set his sights on the Sea of Azov and Crimea. He seized the Azov fortress from the Ottomans, formerly known as Azak fortress, overlooking the port of Azov, and in September 1698, he founded the first Russian Navy base, Taganrog, on the Sea of Azov. Catherine the Great continued his imperial project and seized Crimea and its vicinity in 1774, whereupon Moscow established its strategic naval base at Sevastopol, which has served as the main base of Russia’s Black Sea fleet. Moscow not only established a strategic foothold on the Black Sea but also projected its power over the restive Caucuses. From Moscow’s past to the present, Crimea and Donbas have constituted a center of geopolitical gravity and prestige for Moscow as a big power.
Putin has not only underscored their historical, strategic, and cultural importance but also made them a testament to his legitimacy as the leader who reconstituted Russia as a big power. In his address to the Duma in March 2014, for example, Putin stressed:
Everything in Crimea speaks of our shared history and pride. This is the location of ancient Khersones, where Prince Vladimir was baptized. His spiritual feat of adopting Orthodoxy predetermined the overall basis of the culture, civilization and human values that unite the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.
He then added:
It was only when Crimea ended up as part of a different country that Russia realized that it was not simply robbed, it was plundered... Now, many years later, I heard residents of Crimea say that back in 1991 they were handed over like a sack of potatoes. This is hard to disagree with. And what about the Russian state? What about Russia? It humbly accepted the situation. This country was going through such hard times then that realistically it was incapable of protecting its interests. However, the people could not reconcile themselves to this outrageous historical injustice.
Putin’s speech underscored the humility with which Moscow had to deal with in the aftermath of the disintegration of the Soviet Union. But more importantly, Putin stressed the notion that Crimea is an inseparable part of Russia and a cornerstone of its emergence as a civilization and an empire. Keeping Crimea is an act of righting an egregious historical injustice committed against Moscow. Crimea and Donbas are Russia’s red lines.
Indeed, as Heilbrunn rightly postulates, Putin has revivified the Western alliance, aroused America from its post-Cold War torpor, and unified Ukrainians. But what he, along with the Western alliance and mainstream media, fails to realize is that Putin may have lost Kyiv but he will not lose Crimea. Medvedev recently emphasized that “the defeat of a nuclear power in a conventional war may trigger a nuclear war." Patriarch Kirill, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, said in a sermon: "We pray to the Lord that he bring the madmen to reason and help them understand that any desire to destroy Russia will mean the end of the world."
One may assume that these statements reflect Russia’s recognition that it may lose on the battlefield. But these statements are illustrative of how Russia perceives itself as a proud nation with a unique history and culture that has paid a staggering price to help shape our geopolitical world. It would behoove the Western alliance to realize that to overplay its hand is to flirt with playing with nuclear fire. The notion that someone armed with a nationalist history and the largest inventory of nuclear warheads—whose use in conventional warfare is official military doctrine—will go quietly into the night is far-fetched.
Contrary to Heilbrunn’s optimistic predictions, I foresee something far darker—a broken world bedeviled by nuclear anarchy and perilous insecurity. I see a Western alliance waging a war of conscience whose cost will be prohibitive to humanity. Why Heilbrunn, normally an astute observer of international affairs, cannot discern these palpably obvious perils is baffling to me.
- #STOPTHEWAR #FREEZETHEBATTLELINE... #SUEFORPEACEKhurram
- His argument basically boils down to "Crimea and Donbas are a historical part of Russia" and Russia might use nukes if Ukraine tries to take them back.yuekit
- But there are a lot of territories in the world that were historically part of one country or another, since when does that justify an illegal annexation?yuekit
- If this guy thinks Russia is going to start a nuclear war over the Donbas, it only shows how insane they are.yuekit
- #glassrussiaContinuity
- yuekit-1
- shapesalad1
- Aside: which software is used for those 3D animations?shapesalad
- oh blender! amazing https://www.blendern…shapesalad
- I need to be back to learning BlenderOBBTKN
- NBQ001
Major scandal in Russia.
The TV presenter Olga Zenkova from NTV was sent to occupied Melitopol to record a propaganda piece.
While visiting a restaurant, Kadyrov’s nephew Hasan Ibrahimov and men from his unit walked up to her, beat up her camera man and then raped her.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/s…
In Melitopol, Kadyrovites raped a Russian propagandist from NTV and beat up a cameraman. The authors of the channel noted that this topic was prohibited to cover in the news in order not to "discredit the army".
- NBQ001
Destruction of Russians with a “death ray”: https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1l…
Crazy
- HEAT rounds. https://en.m.wikiped…inv
- Is there another video source besides Twitter?instrmntl
- NBQ001
The suicidal tactics of Wagner Group (Thread): https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/…
Whatever happens, the group must reach the firing line. "Whatever happens" is not a turn of phrase, but a task, the failure to complete which will end in execution [by Wagner], regardless of any [mitigating] factors.
- neverscared1
- Z? Wagner?Continuity
- Ukr flag up front thereNairn
- Not seeing it. But I'm also thinking I need to get my eyes checked for a stronger prescription, so ...Continuity
- let me get you closer to the display: https://i.imgur.com/…sted
- how hard it is to get camouflage colored scissors?sted
- Ah there it is!Continuity
- Also, fuck all of you cunts and your 20/20 vision. :'(Continuity
- Are they running away? Stand and fight you fucking pussies! ;PKhurram
- Marching in single file as well. Bunch of donkeys. Spread out! Diamond formation! Even I know that. Jayzus.Khurram
- I wonder how they gonna spin this one. Bakhmut? Bah-mut more like! It was nothing. Strategically insignificant. We didn't want it anyway!Khurram
- It was a meat grinder. They're just throwing bodies like la di da. It's just they have more men than we have bullets!Khurram
- We'll get 'em when these tanks arrive. Give me more money!Khurram
- simmer down you fucking moronscruffics
- What the hell kind of name is Ghost?********
- Fuck off khurram. You sound like a real vile idiot and pro Z orc.NBQ00
- Sted. Amazon for Camouflage Scissorsmicrokorg
- yuekit0
The Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek spoke with Meduza about the Russia-Ukraine war, framing it as part of a global ideological conflict, in which Vladimir Putin himself is befriending other authoritarian regimes to create a new, ultra-conservative axis of global power....
- overrated donald ducktank02
- Zizek? *sniff
I thought this movie he made was good
https://www.youtube.…yuekit
- yuekit3
"Russia is a deeply traumatized, divided nation, whose official discourse is now becoming deeply orthodox. It says, There is no death, but only immortality. There is no pain, only duty. Meanwhile, the majority of people are afraid, and their assent cannot be taken at face value.
The ideology of people around Putin, and Putin himself, seems quite clear-cut. It’s Neo-Fascism. They don’t use this term, but the entire framework of Russian imperialist views — with the right to aggressively expand the state borders, the internal politics with regard to oligarchs, etc. — this mindset is the core of what we would call Neo-Fascism.
Russia has a history of claiming to be an anti-imperialist force, but even this has Fascist precedents, in the German propaganda used when occupying Europe and justifying the occupation as resistance to British and French imperialism.
Putin and the people around him are doing something pretty shrewd, and pretty dangerous. They don’t just rely on orthodox conservative thinkers like Alexander Dugin and Ivan Ilyin. They also use anti-colonial leftist language, telling the world that they represent all of its oppressed people in their struggle against colonial imperialist domination.
And, unfortunately, this has some appeal to some third-world nations. I see it as a very ominous sign. Putin’s promise of pluralism, of countries letting each other do as they please at home, is the basis of Putin’s deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan. China’s deal is to be able to have its way with its Muslims. But this isn’t anti-imperial emancipation: it’s really a proposal for a new Neo-Fascist unity."
- grafician-1
"GERMANY APPROVES 178 LEOPARD-1 TANKS FOR UKRAINE: SPIEGEL"
- We continue to escalate this thing.MondoMorphic
- you mean Russia started itNBQ00
- Mondo knows nadatank02
- Leopard 1A5, the last main revision before the Leopard 2, from 1980. Still, better than a shit in the mouth I suppose.Nairn
- NBQ00-1
Russian missiles fly over Moldova and Romania
- NBQ000
The recent Russian offensive in Vuhledar was a disaster. They lost over 30 tanks/ BMP’s at once.
- yuekit0
Prigozhin says Russia could be fighting 2-3 more years just to take over the Donbas region
- Prigozhin'll be dead within a year.Nairn
- Wonder what the bookies have for poison v defenestrationContinuity
- Suicide by falling over a tankgrafician
- drgs2
Solovyov's oldest son, not that there's anything wrong with it
