Digital passport
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- Hayzilla2
I'm all for a digital passports. Trolls, hackers & pussies are the only people who would fear it.
I mean Google/Facbook know exactly who you are and WTF you are doing anyway.
Lets make it legit. Total freedom of speech should come with it too. Doesn't matter if you are a anti-vaxxer, flat-earther or Nazi. Freedom of speech under your a real identity. This would probably all need to come under a government issued username/email address.
God, have I just realised I'm a fascist.
- That was my fear, it's a facisity. But this is why we can't have nice things.monoboy
- But I fear half the people sharing this type of shit are doing for attention. With accountability, those that do might even do a little research first.monoboy
- Damn, how quickly you adopt fascism when presented with a problem. We can do better!nb
- The other half don't exist.monoboy
- The anti-vaxxer stuff is case study in itself. It originated in Russia.monoboy
- Typing too fast. Bad grammar.monoboy
- Published by a doctor, who was held accountable (somewhat). Didn’t stop the morons from moroningnb
- I don't think it's fascist but isn't there a basic freedom of expression that you get from being anonymous?yuekit
- if you forced all people to the passport violently, yeah...fascist. (but no u didnt)eddieScissors
- "freedom of expression that you get from being anonymous" One of the most terrifying things I've ever read.Hayzilla
- We do it with driving cars, why not surfing the internet? Imagine every car driver being completely anon.Hayzilla
- People ARE anonymous though until they do something illegal. Then the cops might pull them over and check their license.yuekit
- Same as the internet. If you commit a crime, the authorities can almost always figure out who you are by tracking your IP address, location etc.yuekit
- Actually I just realized no one here really explained what they mean by "internet ID." Is it to be able to look up who posted something behind the scenes?yuekit
- Or is the idea that your real name would be publicly visible alongside everything you post? Because I think the second one is going way too far -- it would beyuekit
- the equivalent of forcing people in real life to walk around with name tags.yuekit
- nb2
I hear you, but anonymity is a necessary part of a free society.
What good would an eID do when even the US President gets away with troll content, fake news, etc? We're not holding anyone accountable anyway.
- That's the point surely.monoboy
- I think we'd lose something and I just don't see how we'd gain anything.nb
- Accountability.monoboy
- You won't be able to enforce it entirely, but you could make it law for the bigger players.monoboy
- It's less important for places like this, but even here, I suspect we've had a few Армия троллей России contributions.monoboy
- But we don't have accountability now despite the vast majority of people using their real identities on social media, etc.nb
- How do you know they're real? https://thispersondo…monoboy
- ok, but you must admit that SOME people who are spreading misinformation are doing it under their own name. Many promote themselves!nb
- If we aren't currently holding those people accountable, why would adding an eID to everyone else suddenly change that?nb
- You can if you've verified they're eID on sign-up.monoboy
- If a troll farm can longer set up fake accounts, you diminish them.monoboy
- If a user shares a piece of content that's known to be fake and detrimental to public health, you can flag it.monoboy
- But this is where it gets iffy, I'll admit. Who controls what etc?monoboy
- Nairn2
Admittedly I skimmed through that, but - you want me to stick my balls in your face?
- monoboy1
(That last sentence sounds way more aggressive that it was meant to be).
Let's have an amnesty first.
- monoboy
The beauty of the internet is its independence but it has become weaponised by propagandists and anonymity is part of the problem.
I think it might be time, sadly, to introduce reform. Possibly a digital passport or eIDs to be able to signup and use online tools.
Half the hateful shit said on here wouldn't have emerged had it been in any way accountable. (I'm guilty of it myself).
It's been fun, I admit. But when politicians start sharing bullshit made in FSB troll farms as fact to enrage their base into direct action. We've got a real problem on our hands.
I've had enough. You can call me whatever you want. But at least have the balls to do it to my face.