Microsoft Fluent Design
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- Continuity3
Oh, god, I hate myself for saying this ...
... but that's actually not bad.
- Is it actually usable, though? Who knows. But it is really quite pretty.Continuity
- I agree.maquito
- I have to agree. They must have hired a new ui crewdbloc
- This is really the direction in which I would have loved Mac OS to go. Sadly, MS beat them to it.Continuity
- It does seem like a natural progression.ETM
- prophetone3
pretty
- feel4
- Bennn1
Microsoft will be cool again and Apple will become the new Microsoft. Everything is repeating itself. We're in a loop.
- microsoft has zero mobile game.hotroddy
- Truism®utopian
- when was microsoft cool?monospaced
- https://upload.wikim…sted
- what mono saidsince1979
- 1995-2000drgs
- not saying that Microsoft isn't doing the right thing here ... just that they weren't ever cool, and there's no repeating or looping going onmonospaced
- ^ Always this guy :)ETM
- I agree with mono here... successful doesn't mean cool. people used windows out of necessity and it was the flavor of the cubicle.since1979
- apple had its head up its own ass for so long that they dropped the ball in the early 90s. also their closed system could only go so far...since1979
- you guys know why most of the atm machines run windows? or why was ms so strong in education in europe?sted
- they didn't had a better product, or indispensable features just a better business strategy nothing more.sted
- since vista they try to be cool and get into a market what's dominated by apple, now these aspirations have come to fruitionsted
- more like people didn't have a choice and windows machines were/are less expensivejaylarson
- you mean flooding the market with cheap product? for example buy our server or infrastructure solution and you get tons of client OS licenses for free. (NT+Xp)sted
- Windows had a lot going for it ... it's what people used at work, it had free Office, they had more buttons on their mice, etc...monospaced
- ... but it was never cool.monospaced
- Microsoft has a Steve as well. And it's his turn turn to shine.pango
- No they don't.monospaced
- Not cool, but not hated. Then they became hated and apple became super cool, then mainstream and now sucksBennn
- Steve ballmer left?pango
- lol Bennn and your imagined drama ... and yes, Ballmer left years agomonospaced
- Damn! I'm out of the loop.pango
- this looks cool. and I like apples stuff as well. why the world gotta be so black and white benn?inteliboy
- 'Not hated' ... bennn, _everyone_ hate Windows and Office back in the day.
Come on, now.Continuity - Actually ballmers absence probably explains why MS could pump out new cool stuffs at a rate way faster than before.pango
- zombie steve jobs will risesince1979
- mugwart0
shit ... it looks really good.... i fucking hate windows and OSX...
Qt 3d is still too much in its infiancy.
might have to get some VR and a copy of windows...shit
- looking at this i dont think its that great.
just great presentationmugwart - yep we haven't seen a single real person using this kind of ui. and half of it is just a promo for Surface Studiosted
- tech is still too new. few have the surface pro.
I hope the world gets onto linux and VR. think things will get interestingmugwart - You couldn't get me onto Linux if you paid me.face_melter
- linux is dyingsince1979
- what you both talking about?
Linux is getting stronger?mugwart - Once you get past the learning curve you'll never go back ... unless you need adobe!mugwart
- I tried Linux. Twice. I went back. It fucking sucks.Continuity
- takes a while to get used to but it has so many advantages over mac/windows. surprised its not used more (aka cooperate intrusion, access to your data etc)mugwart
- also there are loads of flavours - so if you dont like one try another.mugwart
- I'm with mugwart here. Linux/Unix is the best. direct access to the process model, and freerobotinc
- looking at this i dont think its that great.
- Gnash0
Reminds me of Braun
- formed0
I like how MS and Google are pushing forward with bigger picture stuff. Great strategies that benefit everyone (and a big risk on their part, nothing that they can charge directly for).
Apple just seems to be frozen with fear. They have had years to come up with something, anything, that isn't just about eeking out a few more pennies from consumers. Maybe they'll blow us all away again, they certain should, but it seems that the fear of failure has stagnated the behemoth.
Personally, I still think Windows Phone was far superior design wise. So much info right there. iOS and Android work fine, but the seem like generic functionality without any hierarchy.
Looking forward to MS's mobile entry again. It looks like it could be this year, but who knows. They are bold and their record is pretty stellar so far . Even a flop I think would be fine as long as it pushed the boundaries. Apple, on the other hand, almost cannot afford to take a risk, too many shareholders demanding consistent profits to take a chance with anything.
- zombie steve jobs will risesince1979
- Ok, fanboy hat on here for am moment... what exactly have MS and Google done that is so revolutionary?inteliboy
- With billions in cash, Apple can certainly afford to make mistakes. Microsoft actually has issues, and scrapped phones as a result of mistakes.monospaced
- That's why MS and Google can take chances - they have made mistakes, so another one won't rock the boat.formed
- Apple hasn't done anything since the iPhone. Even the iP8 looks like a modest upgrade (I am sure it'll be great, but there are no chances taken).formed
- I totally disagree they can take a hit. One bad product and their stock will plummet. Services are increasing a little, but still way behind MS/G.formed
- That's fine, they'll keep making money, but they aren't "trying".
MS/Google are really trying to make waves. Obviously it's about good investments, future,formed - WPhone, Material/Fluent Design are all trying to push the envelope. What has Apple done in the last few years?formed
- all these phones do the exact same thing, so I'm not sure how google or MS are doing anything more innovative in that space...inteliboy
- sofakingback-4
My first impression of it is... it looks lifeless.
Can't say the design is bad, it does have that industrial, technical, look.
but, its just dead.
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Doesn't it always seem like Microsoft makes the right moves and innovates past the norm... but always fails to make it connect with people. It never becomes... harmonious.
- I don't know about that, I think you could argue their design is the most integrated with their products. Word, Excel, etc., have a similar feel to this designformed
- guess I've been using Windows so long that I don't usually have complaints about the usability or UI. Tweak the colors and add a wallpaper and viola, good to goSteveJobs
- (Vista being the notable exception)SteveJobs
- That their products have cohesion. Sure. But its not good by any means. Office suite is an abomination. Its horrible in all categories.sofakingback
- Every now and then they come up with really great ideas, feels like they always have... but they can never pull it together. Not like google and apple have.sofakingback
- since19792
https://arstechnica.com/informat…
more on this.
- _niko0
- thought apple would have leapfrogged this by now but instead we get a cheese grater?_niko
- God I could use that now! I love my Wacom, but this must be amazing.formed
- actually don't know a single real Surface user irl, most people use wacom or ipad pro+pencil and I'm talking hundreds of creative buddies I knowgrafician
- it's not cheap and isn't trying to compete with a tablet (or wacom). But as a next computer, there's nothing that can compete with it (still).formed
- Personally, I have no interests in the limitations of an ipad and much prefer true programs.formed
- grafician-1
so microsoft thinking "oh we can't copy apple this time like we did in the '90s, buuuut uh uh let's take google's stuff and make something new and FLUENT"
common, the single biggest advancement in UI design was switching from "click" to "tap", from mouse to mobile and microsoft fell of the innovation train a long time ago...
this is just eye candy
you guys thinking they hired a new design team? Maybe their old team just got "immersed" in dribbble a little too much these days, this looks like a freshman UX designer trying to impress the dribbble community
I see nothing usable from a user pov in this - who is this targeted to?
the next best thing in ux would be switching from click/tap to voice BUT not even this would be ok from a user pov because talking to an interface takes lots more energy from a human user than actually tapping with your finger on something - it took us decades to feel ok with clicking then tapping for content...
the real issues at this point in time is that humans are at their physical limits when it comes to technology
the next breakthru would be directly brain interaction or SF stuff like that, until then we are stuck and burned out with the options we have these days - clicking, scrolling, tapping, voicing commands...
- and for the last time today: design is not only HOW IT LOOKS but HOW IT WORKS!grafician
- *cough *cough 3 year *cough old *coughhh!! thread *coughPonyBoy
- also not hating here, just hoping for more competition in this field, but when it comes to Microsoft, they're just like a meme of the ui/ux/os worldgrafician
- < also *biggest advancement in UX designgrafician
- however I do agree :)PonyBoy
- 3 years?! See that now :)) so it was a bust already, case closedgrafician