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  • utopian2

    A victim of tyranny. That was the defiant cover story of the last ever edition of the Apple Daily - as Hong Kong's final pro-democracy newspaper wrote its own obituary.

    It came just days after authorities moved to shut down the paper on national security grounds. People waited in long lines to try to secure one of the last copies. One million were printed - several times its normal circulation.

    The newspaper was known for its criticism of China's communist rulers. It said it had no choice but to cease operations, after police froze its assets and arrested five top editors and executives last week. It's seen as another sign of China's tightening grip on the city.

    • This is sadly the future for the rest of the free world as well. Give or take another 50 years.hotroddy
    • i don't think so, the rest of the world had centuries of oppression and they knows the possibilities of freedom.sted
    • in 50 years this will be more likely could be true in Africa, where china exports its governing style.sted
    • China and Russia are doing it to Venezuela and Nicaragua. Venezuela's last remaining newspapers assets (office building, etc) were seized last month.hotroddy
    • https://www.voanews.…hotroddy
    • gezas sorry for that jibberish but u got important parts eeh :D
      holy fuck, they started to centralize the local media and push out foreign outlets?
      sted
  • grafician-1

    China's share of global GDP (PPP).

    1980: 2%

    2000: 7%

    2020: 18%

    • 2021: 100% GDP. Good disease progression of covid.shapesalad
  • grafician-1

    JUST IN: China's president Xi Jinping says the age when his country can be 'bullied' is over

    • 100 years of china's commie party partygrafician
    • China is always the victim....kind of like our very own Captain America.utopian
    • Good. Because we now we enter the age where their country can be bombed. Preferably a nuke to the CCP hq.shapesalad
  • yuekit6

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/1…

    This is an interesting read....talks about the spying and intel war that has been going on between China and the USA over the past two decades.

    One thing I had never heard before is that the CIA apparently infiltrated the CCP to an amazing degree in the early 2000s by exploiting the corrupt nature of their system. It got to the point where the US government was paying a large portion of the bribes used to advance up the ladder in the party, military etc. But around 2010 this was uncovered and most of these people were imprisoned or executed.

    It helps explain Xi Jinping's "anti corruption" campaign which kicked off around that time and extreme paranoia that everything opposing them (such as Hong Kong protests etc) is actually the CIA.

    China then successfully hacked into the US government and obtained personal info on 21 million government employees (this part was widely reported at the time) which seriously damaged any effort to get intel on China moving forward.

  • utopian5

    China building 100 missile launchpads across desert in 'incredible' expansion of nuclear capabilities

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news…

    • As horrifying as this is, this also seems like a fairly concentrated single point of failure?Nairn
    • ^ each one of their ICBM's spit out a fuckload of warheads like a god damn shotgunGuyFawkes
    • I for one welcome our new Chinese overlordsGuyFawkes
    • time to learn MandarinGuyFawkes
    • 100 here 100 there... the only thing that will stop countries from having a nuclear arsenal is a nuclear war of regret.Beeswax
    • @guyfawkes - and the US et al have a distributed array of launch sites, including submarines? This almost seems like theatre.Nairn
    • yeah we're all fuckin M.A.D.GuyFawkes
    • China has zero experience in modern warfare while the US is practically a war machine.
      All bark, no bite.
      grafician
    • China has been playing the long game for a long time now where as the US has just been lining the pockets of who-evers in charge at the timeGuyFawkes
    • good thing the clintons sent all our manufacturing jobs to china, india & MX for a buckGuyFawkes
    • US reign will be over soon, we can thank our corps & their political buddies for that shitGuyFawkes
    • “All we need to do is release a virus, Americans are so dumb they’ll either refuse to believe it exists or start injecting themselves with bleach or some shit”_niko
    • Why would China build silos right where the US can see them with satellites?cannonball1978
    • Better have as much sex as you can. There may be a big showdown in the coming years.NBQ00
    • a sex showdown? we better get practicing!GuyFawkes
    • ...and folks are worrying about NFTs being bad.microkorg
    • Those look an awful lot like bullseyes...monNom
    • ...more like Whac-A-Mole!utopian
    • feels like a single nuke would take them outautoflavour
    • Humans are so pathetic really.inteliboy
    • The threat from China is that they eventually decide to invade Taiwan or threaten other small countries right next to them.yuekit
    • Look at US bases vs. Chinese bases around the world. The USA has hundreds, China has almost none.yuekit
    • that pic looks fake as fuck. it says 'under construction'. where's the construction machines?...also looks like clone tool photoshop to me.uan
    • and why would china (or whatever country builds it) not cover it? to make a statement, we have nukes. they probably wouldn't need to be operational.uan
    • That's the game they play, all of them, US, china, russia...basically the countries that make money selling weapons, aka security council in UN.uan
    • what if there's only one silo...monNom
  • mg332

    China's long game, and their willingness to play it with the utmost patience, is really what keeps me worried about how we come out of this pandemic and how we move forward over the next decade.

    Establishing dominance in terms of currency and military capabilities has been their doctrine for decades now as they've slowly moved pieces on the chess board ever so slightly so that the big move never comes all at once - you just notice your F'd when you realize you didn't even see all your pieces gobbled up.

    The thing that's really bothered me during this pandemic is that it's revealed countless exploitable opportunities in the US that show how weak we are and how weakened we could be if a little effort was put into it. Most of our failures are our own, but the biggest red flag to me is the reliance on a supply chain that could be crippled instantly if the Chinese government so chose. WAY too much stuff is made overseas that we depend on, that we could make right here if we just chose to pay people a living wage to do the work.

    The scary thought is this: let's say Covid-19 was an accident (and I still believe it was). If we're this screwed because of an accident, God forbid what would happen if a pandemic came with some intention of using biological agents, gain of function stuff that would absolutely cripple society in conjunction with supply chain disruption that would bring our country to a dead stop. Toss in attacks on the electrical grid, other essential services, and you've brought the most powerful country in the world to its knees without firing a shot.

    There's so much conspiracy theory stuff out there that's pure nonsense and not worth a seconds worth of time to talk about, but understanding China's global ambitions and their absolute willingness to pursue it makes it all seem perfectly plausible as a tactic born out of that slow, methodical, patient, calculated strategy they have to achieve it.

    • Who’s to say that China doesn’t vaccinate its population, start a pandemic then take over the world? They might living in your house...shapesalad
    • *They might like living in your house.shapesalad
    • All signs show we are heading towards WWIII. But slowly. Creeping. And China will lose, but only after massive destruction on both sides.shapesalad
    • Failure will come from China's lack of understanding of human motivation.shapesalad
    • Can you please study more communism? No communist country is interested in expansion, rather than maintaining power.grafician
    • Also WW3 will be in space, as WW2.5 is already cybergrafician
    • Anyway, communism will never win as it promotes fear and corruption - the easiest things to exploit in any conflict.grafician
    • China taking over the world is going to quickly run into the reality that almost no one outside of China wants the "Chinese system."yuekit
    • Even on the periphery of China (HK, Taiwan, Myanmar, Cambodia) you can see it running into trouble.yuekit
    • So how is China going to start taking over totally different parts of the world? Not to mention, even if people wanted to learn Chinese it's really difficult :)yuekit
    • USA was successful partly because English is the default global language, American movies and music are watched everywhere. Chinese culture is very insular.yuekit
  • grafician-1

    "China plans its first crewed mission to Mars in 2033"

    https://www.reuters.com/business…

  • yuekit2

    lol...to celebrate 100 years of the Communist Party, you can buy a commemorative Mao Zedong Huawei Mate 20 lined with 18k gold.

    Cost: $25,370

    https://caviar.global/collection…

    • dude, they also got the IPHONE 12 PRO version for $18 900.uan
    • fantastic!renderedred
  • yuekit6

    https://qz.com/2019322/why-lying…

    During its seven decades of ruling in China, the Chinese Communist Party has become increasingly skilled at crushing street protests such as the 1989 Tiananmen Square student demonstrations. But the government is now facing a new form of resistance that may be a little harder to put down—“Tang Ping” (躺平) or lying flat, a passive approach to life that subtly thwarts the government’s desire to foster a hardworking and productive populace.

    The concept advocates an almost monastic outlook, including not getting married, not having children, not having a job, not owning property, and consuming as little as possible.

    For many, this is almost the only way in an authoritarian country to fight against the growing pressures from long work hours, skyrocketing housing prices, and the ever higher cost of raising children. Lifestyle philosophies based on rejecting ambition, and being a cog in China’s capitalist machine have been spreading in recent years, and “lying flat” is the latest culmination of such trends...

    • so they got hippies now?pango
    • It reminds me a bit of recent Western lifestyle trends like minimalism, moving off the grid, digital nomad etc.yuekit
    • They frame it as a political thing here but it's more a response to extreme capitalism and living costs IMO.yuekit
    • "not having a job, not owning property, and consuming as little as possible"
      Sounds a lot like communism.
      palimpsest
    • ^ it sounds like rejecting capitalismkingsteven
    • ^ exactlypalimpsest
    • Lying flat is the perfect way to describe those lazy fuckshotroddy
    • soon they're going to have long hair freaky people.pango
    • Lol at Hotroddy. They reject communism and you still hate them.PhanLo
    • roddy can relate about lying down, with all the bootlicking he does.face_melter
    • @palimpsest: "not owning property" yes, and "consuming as little as possible" not officially, but still a yes...rzu-rzu
    • ... however being employed is/was usually mandatory in communist states, so being an "unproductive parasite" does not fit well with the working class utopiarzu-rzu
    • Those commies only want government handouts. That is their utopia.palimpsest
    • I thought commies got gov handouts already, no question asked. isn't that the difference to the capitalists?uan
    • I don't think there are many handouts in China. They don't have much of a welfare system at all.yuekit
    • Lying down on the job is the American way...bunch of lazy fucks.utopian
    • Sounds like posh c*nts on a 'Gap Yah'.
      https://youtu.be/eKF…
      microkorg
    • This isn't a widespread thing, it is only 'kids' from well-to-do families who can afford to do this. Or from families where the parents are stupid enough...microkorg
    • ..to support their 'Golden Child'.microkorg
    • Lol, ya, they live under an authoritarian boot so it must be the capitalism they’re reacting too. 2xlolzGnash
    • LOL Gashutopian
    • or could it be authoritarian capitalism? im not sure if its a thing but if its a thing china's doing it.pango
    • https://gaodawei.wor…yuekit
    • https://gaodawei.wor…yuekit
    • ^ Read these you will get the idea. It's anger at diminishing opportunity, rising costs and being stuck in an endless work culture.yuekit
    • it's not necessary anger, it's a different view of how life works.uan
    • It's the state of mind you naturally reach doing inner work.uan
    • Translated from Chinese post: "Even if the bees in the beehive work hard to collect honey all their lives, the honey collected will be enjoyed by the beehiveyuekit
    • maker. No matter how hard a hen in a chicken farm lays eggs, she cannot escape being slaughtered in the end."yuekit
    • Talks about how the average worker would have to work for 20-30 years just to save up the down payment of a house in a first tier Chinese city now.yuekit
    • The funny thing is stereotype of Chinese is that they are all ultra hard working and obedient, but this shows that even they are getting sick of that shit.yuekit
    • na yuekit...next thing you'll type is they are human beings ;-)uan
    • sounds like what western society experienced before. or is experiencing still.pango
  • utopian2

  • Krassy0

    WW3 fears as China threatens to NUKE Japan on eve of Olympics if it intervenes in Taiwan conflict

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/330…

    • I saw this the other day somewhere. Trouble with this is - China has a long-stated No First Use nuclear policy, so I suspect this might not be officialNairn
    • "But a video channel, allegedly approved by the Chinese Communist Party with close ties to the PLA, took the anger to the next level.". it's just fluff.Nairn
    • the root of the Taiwan conflict is the production of semiconductorsKrassy
    • While being the 4th largest Navy in the world the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force is limited in their offensive capabilities.jonny_quest_lives
    • Not really, that's just a big ol' lump of leverage with the rest of the world.Nairn
    • If they did intervene in any potential China Taiwan conflict it would be in support of US Naval operations as the overall makeup and tonnage of the Japanesejonny_quest_lives
    • Navy has been structured with US oversightjonny_quest_lives
    • Yes, China attacking Japan is the same as attacking the US, Australia, UK and JapanKrassy
    • Fuckit, India too, why not?
      Jonny - out of interest, what do you think Russia would do if this shit all went bazooka?
      Nairn
    • intervenes? are they attacking taiwan right before the Olympic now? what about the medals?pango
    • China will have a war with India rather than do anything to Taiwan lol
      All bark, no bite
      grafician
    • What about their athletes? Do you think they will bomb them?
      Also, the Olympic Games are also known as the festival of peace.
      uan
    • @jonny - sorry, for some reason I thought you were Eastern European/Russian. Just checked your profile and you're in the states? lol @ me.Nairn
    • Fake fucking news. Come on guys, The SUN??sarahfailin
    • @sarahfailin did you watch the video that was produced by the CCP?Krassy
    • US Air Force to send dozens of F-22 fighter jets to the Pacific amid tensions with China.
      https://www.cnn.com/…
      utopian
    • Sorry, but Russia never will intervene in a China / Taiwan war... It's a win-win for them, China no amigo for RuskiesOBBTKN
    • intervene which way?Nairn
    • plz let it be hentai tentacles monsters.pango
    • "the Sun" is not a paper i would trustmilfhunter
    • Don't even use the Sun to wipe your arsePhanLo
  • Krassy3
    • Gawd Bless American Greed!utopian
    • Let tha markets deciiiiiiiiddeeeeePhanLo
    • They need the land to hold all the muslims of the world...shapesalad
    • UK is fullsted
    • we should do what China's ally's do -let them buy up the land and then we 'nationalize' all of them and keep the money.hotroddy
  • Krassy3

    China can lock up a million Muslims in Xinjiang at once

    ...staggering scale of China’s prisons and detention camps

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/art…

    • Hmmm. I wonder what was painted out of his hand...Gnash
    • ^ a huge...sickle?Krassy
    • I was thinking a bouquet of flowersGnash
  • PhanLo3

    • only 31 people died... even though approx 600 cars in rush hour traffic in a tunnel that flooded....shapesalad
    • Meanwhile in the USA....droughtutopian
  • PhanLo2

    Anarchae in the C H I N A A A A A A A A
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  • grafician-4

    China dropped the regulation hammer on their tech and education industries, the markets are bleeding. Shaved over $1T out of those stocks.

    They also just banned WeChat.

    All Western smart money trying to get out of China and Honk Kong

    Wild times...

    • No, they've not just 'banned' WeChat, they've just nixed new registrations until it complies with legislation. WeChat is a hugely-useful tool for the CCPNairn
    • Alright Nairn to be more precise: https://www.reuters.…grafician
    • Yes, and that's what it says in that article, which I'd read - likely from the same place you saw it!Nairn
    • youve got it upside down graf - bans are coming for wechat's competitors. Honk Konkkingsteven
    • Wechat has competitors in China? Hmmmgrafician
    • But yes, Didi was pulled from the app stores earlier

      Anyway, it's a carnage
      grafician
    • @Nairn nah, wechat was pulled from ecommerce websites too so that's a bangrafician
    • lol, here we go again.fadein11
    • Isn't this sort of what Americans dream of the government doing, cracking down on tech companies?yuekit
  • uan0

    • Projections over the low cloud level?grafician
    • aurorauan
    • Nah, those are reflected projections probably from the streets bellow over the lower clouds ceilinggrafician
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