Apple Music
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- ideaist0
I've been on board thus far for NEARLY everything Apple since switching over from a PC environment in the late 90's.
That being said, alternatives to Apple Music (across device):
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PLEX -> https://plex.tv/
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VOX & Loop -> http://coppertino.com/
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Both of the above allow you to "own" your library rather than stream it abandoning ownership is favour of stream ability.
Apple, like any company of its size cannot be jack of all trades and we have the obligation to adjust to said shortcomings and use smaller, superior software/services/etc.
- ownership is favour = ownership IN favourideaist
- the ownership is the point that will surely make me drop Apple Music. If i stop paying in 5 years, i will lose access to all the music i've downloaded.Ben99
- If you stop paying with any streaming service you lose the ability to listen too.monospaced
- monospaced0
When Apple Music first debuted, I was hoping for a useful implementation of its personal curation. I EXPECTED it to churn out playlists based on my preferences and listening habits. When I open Apple Music, and click on For You, I expect music lists curated for me. Instead I find these absolutely fucking useless list of artists and albums that I already own and listen to. Thanks... for nothing.
Following this initial disappointment and major missed opportunity by Apple, I went back to Spotify, ran the update, and found exactly what I was looking for with Apple Music: Discover Weekly. A playlist curated for me regularly based on music I like, and chalk full of new and interesting things.
This is exactly what Apple should have done. Instead, they just turned Apple Music into a nightmare UI that makes the whole concept of music discovery basically impossible. I've already ranted on how much I can't stand iTunes (and so has everyone else), but that pales compared to what was promised.
- <This. Discover weekly was the final factor in deciding to stick with Spotify for streaming.Wolfboy
- For me too.monospaced
- I feel like I should be able to open iTunes and have a huge "here's new awesome music for you" front and center.monospaced
- But switching between Mu Music and Playlists and Radio and For You is a fucking nightmare. No thanks.monospaced
- Ben990
Do you have ownership of what you download with Spotify?
- Spotify is just streaming.monospaced
- You cannot download albums for offline listening?Ben99
- yeah, but you don't actually have the files... so technically you aren't really downloading them? Apple Music also has offline listening. same crapmonospaced
- but you really download the tracks with AppleMusic. You have the files on your hard disk.Ben99
- really? I thought you had to buy tracks through iTunes store to actually have the mp4 filesmonospaced
- the files are *.m4p (not mp4) and are DRMed, as soon as you cancel your membership the file is asking for login info to listen to it.Ben99
- But you really have the files locally on your hard drive.Ben99
- I saw in Google some tools to remove the DRM on Spotify files, so i guess its the same thing for Spotify, you can download the tracks.Ben99
- I guess legally you don't own them since you really only pay to stream. Hence the drm. Makes sense.monospaced
- I've become less concerned with actually owning music files. It's just sound. As long as I can access the sound somehow, it's fine.iCanHazQBN
- ... and doesn't take up storage on my HD. If I have a laptop with 250GB HD and 50GB is music, that's a big chunk of memory used up.iCanHazQBN
- Streaming through Spotify still takes up HDD space - audio is cached as it plays and is reset after a time - they removed the option to limit the storage.face_melter
- Wolfboy1
@Ben & Mono
The whole online/offline/tracks on your hard drive is one of my bugbears when it comes to Apple music too.
At the start of this year I spent ages re-ripping my hard collection as lossless files; getting anal about tack titles, art work etc. It took me a few months to complete the project. When Apple Music came along I switched on all the various bits and bobs to get the most out of it and I suddenly started getting duplicated tracks, incorrect art work and lower bit rates; I believe this happened because I'd changed meta data on the existing tracks in my library so Apple no longer recognised them.
I've read in many places from people who are equally nerdy when it comes to their library that they've encountered the same problems. So after the Spotify Discover Weekly appeared (as previously mentioned by Mono) I took the decision to keep my own music and streaming music separate.
I have also recently started a Sonos system at home, so iTunes has pretty much been relegated to just being the base library and ripping software because I'm using Sonos' software & apps with a NAS drive. This also lets you use Spotify at the same time as accessing your library anyway.
- Ben990
Yeah, i think i will drop Apple Music. I kinda like it, but it dont make sense in the long run.
- iCanHazQBN0
I've been using Spotify Premium for the past few days. Love how easy it is to discover new, good music in the Browse section.
Haven't tried Apple Music yet. Is it similar to Spotify?
- i think yes. but the A.I. is kinda dumb for suggesting you stuff.Ben99
- Browsing isn't quite as good in my opinion. Spiritual wins here too.monospaced
- Spotify not spiritual. Lolmonospaced
- i heard Spiritual is tha shit right now in Bangladesh.Ben99
- utopian0
What Went Wrong?
Nearly a month after Apple’s streaming music service launched, popular Apple commentator Jim Dalrymple declared Apple Music a nightmare.
Dalrymple detailed how his personal music library was a mess after enabling Apple Music’s matching service. Songs were missing, duplicated, or placed in the wrong album altogether.
After countless hours of trying to correct the problem, Dalrymple eventually just turned off Apple Music across all of his devices. The result? 4,700 songs disappeared into thin air, or so it appeared.
- Why would anyone even trust the makers of iTunes with their file management? First thing I turned offWeyland
- inteliboy1
what the fuck is going on over at Apple? feature overloaded itunes, stupid extra 2 physical buttons watch interface, axeing anything pro about their pro software, phones copying the stupid fad of large phablets etc etc.
Seems like all they do these days is listen to what their shareholders want... which most of the time is rubbish and without vision.
- Their shareholders are ecstatic btw, and the people keep buying nonsenseWeyland
- I dunno. Due to endless problems, I finally relented and replaced my Apple TVs and iTunes with a Roku boxes and Plex and I am bloody thrilled.ETM
- Apple was supposed to alleviate my headaches and now-a-days they cause the majority of them.ETM
- Only really long term share holders are happy, below the 200 day moving average now, which hasn't happened in yearsformed
- inteliboy1
I mean itunes really is a frustrating piece of shit to use.
- https://www.youtube.…dorf
- It has become bloated to all hell now - they should tear off the iOS app store and join it with the OS X app store - leave iTunes just for music.face_melter
- docpoz0
Ives, I am disappoint.
- Ben990
whats are the best alternatives to manage music outside iTunes? On Windows.
- MusicBee seems cool, lots of features http://getmusicbee.c…Ben99
- HijoDMaite0
Apple Music, iCloud Music Library, iTunes?
What the Actual??
I just need to know if and when I stop paying Apple Music $9.99 per month, do I get to keep the albums I have downloaded while paying for the service?
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"the files are *.m4p (not mp4) and are DRMed, as soon as you cancel your membership the file is asking for login info to listen to it."HAYZ1LLLA - got it.HijoDMaite
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- dibec0
^ I believe not. You pay the monthly premium to license the music for that duration of time. That way Apple can stick it to you every month. Otherwise, I think people would download a years worth of music and bounce.
- makes sense. so I assume it's the same for Spotify and Tidal?HijoDMaite
- Those albums d-loaded during AM subscription are only there to listen to while offline then.HijoDMaite
- ernexbcn2
It's like Netflix, do you download movies on netflix to keep for yourself? no.
They allow to download the files for offline listening (or viewing) but as soon as you stop paying they are gone.
- section_0140
Assuming you had the time to do so, you could use something like Sound Flower to route the DRM'd music in to Audacity and record it.
It would be tedious, but you'd have the music in a non DRM'd format.