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- benfal99
Back in the days I was selecting every parts of the PC I wanted and ask a shop to build it for me. More recently it was the same, but I was selecting my parts on the DELL website. Now DELL doesnt' offer parts options anymore, you take their systems as is.
You PC people, (Mac people always take as is system since years), if you had to buy a new PC tomorrow, what would you buy? Are desktop system dead? Laptops and tablets took over the market.
- cannonball19780
Maybe buy the parts and build it yourself?
- inteliboy0
Surely there are PC shops you can find in your area? Don't need to go a brand name.
- benfal990
people are still building their system?
- ETM0
Still alive and well out west. I use these guys all the time:
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Sys…
- uuuuuu0
desktops aren't dying that's just what the marketing people will tell you. and yeah people definitely still build their PCs. go to a local shop and tell them what your needs are, price range and ask about the best parts and specs these days. I always get a print out quote with parts list then do the research on the net, make changes etc.
- mg330
Sort of related...
Visited my sister in law and her husband this weekend in northwestern Illinois. He is an IT manager for a big manufacturing company or something. They're good conservative folk but somehow we get along just fine.While there, my 7 year old nephew was asking about me having an iPad and iPhone and asked if I had an Apple computer, and when I said yes he said "dad says Macs are for people who don't know how to use computers."
It pissed me off on so many levels. What does that even mean? Why does a 7 year old even know that to repeat it? What conversation came up where they even talked about computers they don't own?
I found a way in another conversation to basically tell him "yeah, I paid my dues, built a few computers, agonized over parts, reliability, scalability, etc and eventually wanted nothing to do with fussing over all that. A Mac does everything I need it to do, no hassle, always works.
- but it is true, don't want to butthurt people but most people I know who have macs have no idea how a comp works ;PGeorgesIV
- and are proud of it too, I think we should segregate them and make sure they don't reproduce, wait a fuckn min... ehheheeGeorgesIV
- yep this is a well known fact - they were made idiot proof for idiots when they went after big marketsfadein11
- In all fairness, any mass market product should be as idiot-proof as possible,ETM
- "Your daddy gets laughed at at work."cannonball1978
- It used to be the other way around; PCs were for the masses. Mac's for designers.jacklalane
- mekk0
What I am planning to build after returning a miserable macbook pro:
CPU: Intel i7 3770(k) / 250,-
GPU: Nvidia GTX760 / 220,-
RAM: Kingston HyperX 1600MHz, 2x8GB / 130,-
Mainboard: Asus P8Z77I Deluxe (Mini-ITX) / 150,-Case: Bitfenix Prodigy / 70,-
Some 2TB HDD with 7.200 RPM / 70,-
Some SSD, 250GB / 150,-(Water)cooling parts, Fans, Cables, PSU: 150,-
Sums up to around 1.300 Euros, you might get away a little cheaper with US prices. You can always save with a lower CPU (an i5 is good enough for most people, a lower graphics card and less RAM.)
- My iMac has better specs than that and comes with a 27" screen, camera, speakers and more. Also cheaper.monospaced
- put 24gb of RAM into that. RAM is cheap.benfal99
- nice system btwbenfal99
- @benfal, the board only supports 16GB, @mono gimme your specs and pricemekk
- @mono, the 27" iMac starts at 1.800 Euros here in germany..mekk
- Well that sucks.monospaced
- This one is probably faster.monospaced
- mono, iMac's don't offer an i7, and the best iMac GPU is worse than this one. So, no.section_014
- Weird, my iMac is running on an i7, and has been for 1 1/2 years. Video card is almost the same too.monospaced
- You can get the GTX 780 4GB on the i7 iMac too.monospaced
- an iMac with that spec is around 2.800 Euros. But it has an optical drivemekk
- for the price, yours is faster, like I said.monospaced
- yup, which doesn't make the mac a bad machine. Top-End the Macs are pretty reasonabl, like the mac pro but in mid-range its just a luxury toy imhomekk
- range its just a luxury toy imhomekk
- The iMac has an optical drive? You might want to hard-refresh the Apple Store...nb
- I was thinking that too. Must be an EU thing.ETM
- GeorgesIV0
87% of the people who use a mac couldn't find a cd tray if you showed it to them
76% of mac users don't know where to insert a video card
89% of mac users think firewire works with heat and is hot to the touch
16% of mac users will date a girl who uses windows 8-source: MITIT http://goo.gl/WCGvXS
- yovkov0
built my PC 6months ago
Budget machine for 3D rendering/modeling/motion
i7 4770K
Quadro 600 graphics,
32 RAM
good cooling
Fractal design R4 arctic white - really nice minimalistic case
arround 1100-1200 EU total
- Ooooh, I like that case.detritus
- Looks like a laundry washer.monospaced
- even betterdrgs
- the size is close to washing machine, but it\s really tick-metal heavy case, really silent, you don't know if it\s on <--important thing when rendering at night and trying to sleep in small bedroom-officeyovkov
- just saying, it looks exactly like one, and probably a fucking eyesore when things are plugged in.monospaced
- I mean, that's fucking anti-design, it's so fucking uglymonospaced
- < lol. it is isn't it. its like something Curry's shat out in the 80'sfadein11
- have you ever seen pc case in your life? how many better designs are there? none i've seen, only apple products can compareyovkov
- why you insult my case?? (curls up in a fetal position while crying his eyes out)yovkov
- I never said Apple designed the best cases. But that is fucking FUGLY.monospaced
- yeah but can monos mac wash the dishes and dry some clothes at the same time? i dont think somoldero
- btw, those plugs on the top are a horrible design, shits gonna look like a white rasta nightmaremoldero
- not to mention collect dirtmoldero
- exactly what I meantmonospaced
- <maybe its cleans itselfmoldero
- <haha. its horrible. like a USB shredder!fadein11
- It's a render box. It's a work horse. It's like saying that 5 ton truck is ugly compared to my Audi.ETM
- Did that count as mixing my metaphors?ETM
- benfal990
well, thanks for the answer. I see building a custom machine is still possible.
- detritus0
The custom-build segment's bigger than it's ever been — it's just that as a percentage of an ever-enlarging industry, it's smaller in absolute terms than it has been.
- microkorg0
With DELL you can customise some of their machines.
All the ones on offer though are always as-is.
- microkorg0
I'm after a new high spec laptop for music-making and was thinking of using this Scottish company
http://www.utopiacomputers.co.uk…anyone got any other uk suggestions?
- mekk0
^ maybe the razer blade? I find this gaming-themed laptops a bit embarassing..
Maybe the Dell XPS 15:
Or the new Asus Zenbook:
- formed0
I still like my Dell desktops. Just upgraded ram after the fact to save a ton, but the rest is pretty reasonable. Not super attractive, but not ugly either. I like the value in their XPS line.
Laptops still don't offer nearly the value, it'll be ages before they replace a desktop (for my business).
- vaxorcist0
my experience has been to find a PC hardware-freak friend who has just decided his self-built fast-as-hell machine is too "last week" and offer to buy it from him for half what he spent, so he can go get all his new parts and build a new hot machine.....
- GeorgesIV0
Yo ben if you want a good site to check parts before buying them go here,
- ok_not_ok0
no need for them fancy cases...
- ********0
What's wrong with Mac?