iPad or Android

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  • detritus0

    As someone who just made the jump to a smartphone (!!) I'd suggest you check the respective App markets first, if that's what you're interested in.

    I know I've been triffic disappointed in the Andoird apps market, which to my mind has the feel of Public Domain software on 16 bit machines back in the late 80s and early 90s.

    All the 'real' software seems to be getting made for iOS

    If you're NOT interested in the App market, and simply want an internet device with some peripheral functionality, I'd probably go Android, which offers more bang for buck in hardware terms.

    As always - if you can, play with them all first.

    • There are great Android apps, this is disinformation.fadein11
  • ernexbcn0

    iPad all the way.

  • formed0

    iOS 7 works just as well as iOS 6 did on my iPhone 4s.

    Is that what we are talking about? If not, carry on. :-)

    • Lol, we are talking about the 4, the 4s does fine as its more powerful.Hombre_Lobo
  • Hombre_Lobo0

    ^really? good stuff man. you must be one of the lucky ones. its a fairly popular issue -
    http://arstechnica.com/apple/201…
    most system apps take at least 50% longer to open.
    i totally understand that they are providing a new experience for more modern devices. So it wouldnt be so bad if you could downgrade. but you cant which is pretty unacceptable to me.

    it was the same with other older devices and previous IOS versions.

    • some iOS versions were actually faster than previous, not sure now 3 or 4shaft
    • and you should disable opacity background updates for apps that don't need it etc.shaft
  • shaft0

    ^ I have iPhone 4 with iOS 7.1 beta 1 and it's just as usable as the last iOS 6 was, i.e. not a speed demon. Beta 2 was just released today, supposedly even faster.

    http://9to5mac.com/2013/12/13/ap…

  • Hombre_Lobo0

    I got an ipad 2 back when it was fairly new. I wanted to go android more than IOS for the openness and customisation. But at that time i think it was fair to say android wasnt on par with IOS,

    But now its a different story. Android is a lot more responsive and mature. I have an android phone and would happily have that on a tablet, i think i would actually prefer to IOS.

    One thing i despise about IOS is how you are encouraged to upgrade your IOS version, but cannot downgrade it after doing so. usually i think forced updates are good, but its known problem that this can make older devices completely unusable.

    I know 2 people with iphone 4's who updated to IOS 7 and the phone is practically unusable. it runs like a first gen cheapo android. laggy as hell. And apple being apple, there is no way you can un-do this. my mate at work has been in touch with them and they cant do anything.

    If its jailbroken however (and only if you save your SHSH blobs when on older versions) you can downgrade (but its still a huge ball ache of dodging apple barriers). You bought the device you should be able to do what you like. This is why apple were denied by in court to deem jailbreaking a felony. (clearly this doesnt dent their sales, so they dont care and is not likely to be applicable to most users)

    Thats one thing i like about android. Put what you like on it. If they update the Os and you dont like it, just flash the old or a different OS. Once set up you dont even need a pc. You can download an os and install it from your phone.

    This complete lock down of devices is why I wouldnt bother with IOS again. Another bonus is not being tied to itunes.

    But its more a question of ecosystem. Think about what apps you will use and what interface you prefer. All the apps i use regularly are on both android and IOS.

    IOS is still obviously great and i love my ipad. but its running IOS 5. I dont want to update to IOS 7, partly because I worry my eyes will resent me so much for it they will kill temselves. But more so because i expect it to run like utter shite.

    One thing Ive noticed from QBN is that i think IOS has much more support for music making apps and mixers/device connectivity. but im not sure.

    • TLDR:android is now on par. i prefer its openness. i like nachos.Hombre_Lobo
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  • caseyz0

    I Have a 1st gen Nexus 7, Love it. I have a iphone 4s Love it as well. The only down-side to the Nexus is about 1-2hr less battery life compared to the ipad mini (your results may vary).

    I've used most of the 7-10 inch mainstream tablets (Nexus, Samsung, Ipad, Kindle, not windows)

    If I had to purchase a new tablet I'd go ipad mini retina or Nexus 7. 10in tablets have always been a bit cumbersome for me. The Kindle fire is just too far removed an only useful if you are a big amazon fan.

    • Nexus 7 battery life is mainly due to a much brighter screen than the iPad - you can reduce the brightness.fadein11
  • monoblanco0

    monNom now has me looking at Cintiq.
    And I like what I'm seeing.

  • fooler0

    Which one did you buy? ipad mini retina display

    Are you happy with your purchase? Yes

    do you wish you've gone the other way? No

  • fadein110

    "There's no shortage of smaller-screened tablets in the market, but the most talked-about are arguably the Nexus 7 and the iPad mini. Since we've already compared the new Nexus 7 to its older counterpart, let's see how it holds up against its iOS competitor. The iPad mini starts at $329 for the 16GB WiFi version, a hundred dollars more than the Nexus; the 32GB WiFi is $429, a difference of $160; and the 32GB LTE option costs $559, $210 more than Google's equivalent. Granted, the iPad mini's display is an inch larger than the N7, which might affect the cost of the tablet. That said, how else does it compare?

    Naturally, the decision between iOS and Android plays a huge role in the decision-making process, and you'll want to weigh the two platforms very carefully. Diehard iOS users, for instance, would likely find it difficult to switch to Google's mobile OS because they'd have a lower number of dedicated tablet apps to choose from; heck, most Android smartphone users probably have the same complaint. This is a problem the iPad mini simply doesn't have, which may inherently give Apple a leg up, higher prices or not; it also gets brownie points for having a better battery.

    Looking strictly from a budget and spec standpoint, however, the $229 Nexus 7 offers an insane amount of value that bests the iPad mini. The display is the best we've seen on a small tablet, the stereo speakers offer amazingly loud audio, the performance stands up to gaming and other intensive tasks, and you get NFC, wireless charging and enough cellular radios to make it compatible with three of the big four US carriers. If ecosystem doesn't play a large factor in your decision, we heartily recommend the new Nexus 7."

  • set0

    In terms of hardware though, iPad still blows the competition out of the water

  • monoblanco0

    I would not touch a Windows tablet with a 10 foot pole.
    To me it's a moral thing.

    I'm attracted to the build quality of the iPad. Unfortunately I have never held an Android on my hands that felt that good.

    so iOS7 is crap huh? Good to know.

  • nb0

    I've loved my iPhones all the way back to the first generation. I love using iPads. I currently use a Samsung Galaxy Tab (mostly reading or watching videos in bed) and it's fine except for two major flaws:

    1. The volume buttons and "screen-off" buttons are too easy to press. If I softly brush my hand across them, they often get pressed. This is so frustrating, especially when I'm watching Netflix and every few minutes I turn the screen off. When I turn it back on, Netflix has to reconnect and the video jumps back a few seconds. Also, these three buttons are right beside each other. It's so common to want to adjust volume, but I can't "feel" the button to make sure I'm pressing the correct one without accidentally pressing it. So, about one third of the time I try to adjust the volume, I end up shutting the screen off. It's also quite often that I simply adjust my position in bed or set the tablet down and I shut the screen off by mistake. Very annoying.

    2. Battery life sucks, and when it is nearly dead it lights up really bright and makes a loud notification sound THAT DOESN'T STOP until you plug it in or the battery dies completely. I tried turning off all notifications and sounds everywhere, but I can't get it to not do this. It's crazy. The point of this device is to watch a movie or read a while and then leave it on the nightstand and fall asleep. Terrible design.

    If I was buying again, I'd go iPad for sure. Although Android supposedly allows AdBlock, which I should probably install...

  • utopian0

    iPad...barely use it, but monospaced thinks I'm cool.

  • ukit20

    Just bought an iPad Air. The product itself is great in terms of design/screen quality/etc (what the original iPad should have been IMO), and app ecosystem for iOS is much more extensive.

    Having said that some of the new Windows tablets look nice as well. Not sure about Android.

  • prophetone0

    iPad. iOS7 is indeed an atrocity but will get sorted.

    iOS apps win and resale of the iPad is a win.

  • set0

    Honestly I was an Apple fanboy until iOS7. It's made what felt like a premium product feel like a cheap knock off. Android is miles better now.

    Double post I'm sure. Fucking android.

  • monoblanco0

    I'm looking into drawing apps. Draw on the screen is the only thing I cannot do on my desktop or laptop.

    Other than that I do not need it for anything in particular. I do serious work on my desktop. (Windows 7)

    It's a frivolous expense I think I can live with.

  • monNom0

    one of each...for testing