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- qoob
This happened exactly two years ago. Interesting how it just takes a couple people to kick off a mass movement..
- boobs0
What did it achieve?
- it revealed that nothing can be donehotroddy
- < haha...it achieved proof of the futility of protestingqoob
- Seriously though most protests don't achieve anything directly, it's more about raising awareness of an issueqoob
- ALso bringing together like minded people that leads to future developmentsqoob
- I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.
Mitch Hedbergwhatthefunk - lol @whatteh
- utopian0
Wall Street = U.S. Government
- qoob0
- mikotondria30
They proved that you can brand a global world view with one word. No logos, no style guides, no typeface, color colors or swooshes or ball-aching flat responsive scrolling html5 Woordpress theme bootstrap website. One word encapsulating an understanding of the biggest struggle of our time. Occupy.
- utopian0
#ripoccupy
- BabySnakes0
It put more restrictions on the ability to protest.
- that was how many gov decided to respond to it sure.uuuuuu
- ArmandoEstrada0
Tea Party in congress: 38
OWS: 0
- Koch Brothers 50 Everyone Else 0 - what a surprise there then. Congress is their game, they bought it, and the box.mikotondria3
- lvl_130
And now what?
Poor people get nowhere. We are the poor people in a common place. A plan doesn't exist. Therefore the idea fails.
It would literally take an entire nation(s) of 99% to just up and leave their job. All at once. We might as well all go buy a Powerball ticket...and continue on with the vicious cycle. Sad but true.
- set0
To ask what it achieves is pretty naive.
Awareness
- And ultimately, what does awareness achieve?detritus
- Pizza!ORAZAL
- I guess we're yet to see exactly what it can achieveset
- Given that you, me and everyone we know's done fuck all about it, other than 'be aware' - very little, I expect.detritus
- *facebook likes something*detritus
- For now, sure. I imagine its just the beginning though.set
- monospaced0
There are still people camped out downtown. They never left.
- The hippies, you mean?
They're hard to get rid of, those fuckers.detritus - no, the occupy people on wall st.monospaced
- The hippies, you mean?
- GeorgesIV0
saved from some reddit thread, agree with it or not, it give you some starting point to why there's a gag reflex when some words or ideas come up,
freen yourself my brethren
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This is a very young and pretty ill-conceived idea so please bear with me for a minute, i would love to start a discussion on this.So first off it should be noted that in the 1980's and 1990's subcultures and countercultures were becoming increasingly violent, aggressive and political. Many subcultures were turning into legitimate social movements or rebirthing preexisting social and political movements, anarchism is a great example, the punk and thrash scene completely revived, strengthened and popularized anarchism, which was seemingly dead in the states by the 1950's. It sounds silly but without music the protest of the WTO Ministerial Conference of 1999 (battle in seattle) wouldn't have happened, this is but one example of direct action taking place as a direct result of music and in my opinion this was the last serious rise against authoritarian power, capitalism and globalization. Music is an insanely powerful device used for both good and evil, the elites took notice of the growing social activism stemming from the music of the 60's and 70's, they also noticed music was creating extremely progressive and forward thinking subcultural movements amongst the youth of america at an alarming rate.
Hipster was a term used in the 1940's and it was more or less the same as calling someone bohemian, it was never used to bully or ridicule someone until the late 90's, in the coming years it was an extremely popular Buzz word amongst pretty much every main stream media outlet. Coincidentally i also noticed a huge push by the music industry to consolidate the music industry, entire music genres started to die in the late 1990's, artists were being payed to push and influence certain genres into a general style. A lot of talk about "watering down" the music industry was floating around in the early 2000's, well known record labels started dropping popular bands based on their musical genre. Major record labels and media conglomerates began purchasing major indie record labels, some of which they immediately shut down.
Around 2007 i personally started to notice the word "hipster" being thrown around as a control mechanism, if anyone did anything that could be considered odd or counterculture you were instantly labeled a hipster, it didn't matter which subculture you prescribed to. Anything contrary to the status quo was instantly laughed at and almost immediately followed by some vapid remark like "fucking hipsters". Great example, i used to read Adbusters a lot and one day my friend was over playing video games and he looks over with a smirk on his face and says "You and those hipster magazines".
Could the use of the word "hipster" as a control mechanism in combination with the death of indie genres really have a significant effect on subcultures and activism in america? I truthfully think so and i would love to hear everyones input on the subject. Also on this note everyone should really research the rap/hip hop industries relationship with the prison industrial complex...
- Any pigeon holing terms if used seriously have a stop thinking effect on people.yurimon
- fucking hipsters brought it on themselves ;)monospaced
- yurimon0
As long as the fed reserve exists you will never be free.
- "Free" does not exist, just some fantasy and marketing ploy :-)formed
- Responsibility in tune with natural law exists free from gov control.Sovereignty. You're saying you have no free will basically.yurimon
- Right, no other country has a centralized bank. USA is the only one.monospaced
- Thats not the point. you miss core of what said and go one a pms rant on side issues.yurimon
- yes other countries have central banks, we know that.yurimon
- rant on side issues? I'm just saying that the Fed Reserve isn't the world's only centralized bankmonospaced