Bradley Manning - Prison
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- CygnusZero40
So he wont be able to do this anymore? Darn.
- The US military...robotron3k
- shoppedyurimon
- Its actually him.CygnusZero4
- hwatutopian
- its actually sheapi
- bulletfactory0
So this dude's football career is pretty much over, right?
- pr20
bullet, not but this guys is after he was killed by friendly fire and the Pentagon still somehow managed to twist his death into some patriotic "lets go get them" propaganda nonsense:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat…
- utopian0
convicted criminals have received less time jail time for combined: armed robbery, assault, assault with deadly weapon, firearm, hate crimes, endangering a child, parole violations and attempted murder charges!
- The U.S.A.
is fucked in
the ass!utopian - that's like, 7 strikes... manmonospaced
- The U.S.A.
- yurimon0
Daniel Ellsberg, Pentagon Papers Whistleblower speaks on Manning.
- colin_s0
"just taking orders" always supersedes "doing the right thing."
- rybration0
Alright to kill another human being but you get close to the truth about the shit that the US has done then you are fucked. Hope the citizens of US rise up and revolt.
- colin_s0
it doesn't take much scholarly effort to recognize the patterns of america's empire and how it's currently on the downswing. history repeating and all that.
what will be unfortunate, at some point in time, is when it does crumble - whether it be by foreign advance or civil war - the devastation could far outlast the potential consequences of the conflict.
empires throughout history have come and gone, but america is aiming to be the second in the nuclear age (the first being the USSR). russia is barely holding on to stability at this point, but it was never a global financial contributor the way the united states is. a superpower change in this era will have massive effects across the board. i'd reckon it wouldn't be a new "dark age," but it'd likely be close.
this is all just to comment on the more the truth becomes the enemy and those who represent it are prosecuted, the fact that people like ted cruz have a shot at a presidential race (or, for that matter, the fact barack obama ever got elected) we're representing less and less the designs of a free republic and more an ideological dictatorship.
manning did break the law, and yes, he should be prosecuted. but in a system that would actually declare a fair justice, bush, cheney and rumsefeld should be held equally accountable. but the military might of america is so far beyond a weapon the world has ever seen that it will be a sad day when the world sees what it actually does, when those prescribed power start losing control.
- Empires do come and go, but there doesn't have to be devestating end, there can simply be a shift in power.wagshaft
- true, but in the end, everything built falls.colin_s
- Except the internet!nb
- It's always a devastating end for empires, the difference is the time span. An empire can suffer 200 years or die in 1 year.Beeswax
- UK?wagshaft
- wagshaft0
You can see why Snowden turned tail.
- rybration0
There are Nazi war criminals, US presidents, Dictators and CEO's of large multinational corporations who have collectively served less than 35 years.
- youngdesigner0
What Manning Revealed
-Yemeni president lied to his own people, claiming his military carried out air strikes on militants actually done by U.S. All part of giving U.S. full rein in country against terrorists.
-Details on Vatican hiding big sex abuse cases in Ireland.
-U.S. tried to get Spain to curb its probes of Gitmo torture and rendition.
-Egyptian torturers trained by FBI—although allegedly to teach the human rights issues.
-State Dept memo: U.S.-backed 2009 coup in Honduras was 'illegal and unconstitutional.'”
-Cables on Tunisia appear to help spark revolt in that country. The country's ruling elite described as “The Family,” with Mafia-like skimming throughout the economy. The country's First Lady may have made massive profits off a private school.
-U.S. knew all about massive corruption in Tunisia back in 2006 but went on supporting the government anyway, making it the pillar of its North Africa policy.
-Cables showed the UK promised in 2009 to protect U.S interests in the official Chilcot inquiry on the start of the Iraq war.
-U.S. pressured the European Union to accept GM — genetic modification, that is.
-Washington was misled by our own diplomats on Russia-Georgia showdown.
-Extremely important historical document finally released in full: Ambassador April Glaspie's cable from Iraq in 1990 on meeting with Saddam Hussein before Kuwait invasion.
-The UK sidestepped a ban on housing cluster bombs. Officials concealed from Parliament how the U.S. is allowed to bring weapons on to British soil in defiance of treaty.
-New York Times: “From hundreds of diplomatic cables, Afghanistan emerges as a looking-glass land where bribery, extortion and embezzlement are the norm and the honest man is a distinct outlier.”
-Afghan vice president left country with $52 million “in cash.”
-Shocking levels of U.S. spying at the United Nations (beyond what was commonly assumed) and intense use of diplomats abroad in intelligence-gathering roles.
-Potential environmental disaster kept secret by the U.S. when a large consignment of highly enriched uranium in Libya came close to cracking open and leaking radioactive material into the atmosphere.
-U.S. used threats, spying, and more to try to get its way at last year's crucial climate conference in Copenhagen.
-Hundreds of cables detail U.S. use of diplomats as “sales” agents, more than previously thought, centering on jet rivalry of Boeing vs. Airbus. Hints of corruption and bribes.
-Millions in U.S. military aid for fighting Pakistani insurgents went to other gov't uses (or stolen) instead.
-Israel wanted to bring Gaza to the ”brink of collapse.”
-The U.S. secret services used Turkey as a base to transport terrorism suspects as part of its extraordinary rendition program.
-As protests spread in Egypt, cables revealed that strong man Suleiman was at center of government's torture programs, causing severe backlash for Mubarak after he named Suleiman vice president during the revolt. Other cables revealed or confirmed widespread Mubarak regime corruption, police abuses and torture, and claims of massive Mubarak famiiy fortune, significantly influencing media coverage and U.S. response.
- Done with yo cooperation and funding, tolerance, complacency thus passin the buck to yo kidzyurimon
- And hes in jail for 35 years. It wasnt worth breaking the law and throwing your life away over.CygnusZero4
- yeah only US gov can break the lawyurimon
- yurimon0
impossible fair trial made more obvious with an unusual promotion for the judge before trial ends. ha!
"Schenck said Lind has already been informed that she will take up a new position, as a judge on the U.S. Army Court of Criminal Appeals, when the Manning trial ends. And she said Lind will not be swayed by the politics of the case."
- GeorgesIV0
who give a fuck,
Bin Afllack is da new Batmen!!!11
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this story isn't even on people's radar anymore,
see you in 2048...
- Beeswax0
His ideal in leaking these documents tell me that he's more of a Man than many man who governs us.
- or maybe just an individual with a conscious. does that make a "man"?ohhhhhsnap
- you didn't make any sensefadein11
- nb0
It bothers me how this is has become an argument about secrecy vs openness, or merely a discussion about this one man's motives.
Anyone who has read these leaked documents (or an outline of what is in them) can plainly see that what was happening was wrong. We shouldn't be talking about what is legal. Any sane person can see that these actions taken by the American military were wrong.
Bradley Manning saw these documents that outlined horrible actions done by his country and made them public, because otherwise nothing would be done about them. Because he knew right from wrong. Because he looked at these things and thought, "Not in my country. America is better than this, and Americans believe their military to be better than this."
He leaked these documents knowing he'd probably end up fired and in prison, if not executed. Very few people have the courage to do something like this.
This story is not about the law. It's about right and wrong. We leave room to interpret laws in the courts so that when we know something is right or wrong we can amend them or at least make an exception.
Bradley Manning will pay the price for his actions. So be it. He knew this could happen, and I hope at some point he decided that it would be worth going to prison for. I think it is.
If only we could all be so brave.
- pr20
The public doesn't care not necessary because they don't care but rather because they prefer the safety of what they know. Batman and Afflec is not that hard to comprehend - one is cartoon character, the other wears a cape (yeah, yeah- not funny). To completely understand Manning's revelations takes shit load of studying, connecting facts, looking at the affairs from a variety of perspectives, challenging one's preconception of the world...list goes on and on. People are fearful of what might be on the other side of the mirror and thus they go into the known banalities. It has a bit to do with lack of education and lack of genuine curiosity about the world (yes, at the time where the world's knowledge is at your fingertips) but it probably has more to do with this fear where the heroes and role models are gone. Everyone is told to be, to use US Army's slogan, all that you can be but most people forgets that it's only a myth. Majority of people don't really have the capacity to be anything else then a follower of some ideology. The times we live in is a direct result of times where ideology is gone and people are left to fend for themselves. And where the masses are left wondering aimlessly Affleck and Batman prevails.
- CygnusZero40
Got 35 years. Bottom line is whether you think what he did was noble, he still broke a law that is in place to protect people. Yeah he didnt leak anything that was considered a major security threat to us so they ruled he wasnt aiding the enemy, but a law is a law, it exists for a very good reason and if you just let this guy go with no prison time that opens the floodgates for people to do whatever they want. This isnt Somalia, cant go around leaking all kinds of shit about the government.
I do feel 35 years is a bit harsh and i doubt he'll serve all that time, but I think 20 years and out in 10 for good behavior would have been ok. 10 years is a long ass time to sit in a cage.
- 10 years for telling the public the US military enjoys killing civilians... cool story bro.fadein11
- Fuck off. Who are you to pass judgement on someone's life?cotton
- Broke the law cunty. I think you missed that part.CygnusZero4
- Just because something is a law, does not automatically make it right.CanHasQBN
- The law that was passed 100 years ago. Stop the BS and pull your head out of your ass and start thinking for yourself.pr2
- whatthefunk0
WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning intends to begin hormone therapy for gender reassignment and live the rest of his life as a woman, according to a statement from him read on NBC's "Today" show Thursday.
- Hard to tell whats true and what they did to him already in captivity.yurimon
- I'm sure they fucked him up really bad. but to some it up They can break the law if they want.yurimon
- yurimon, scary thing is, you're right.ohhhhhsnap
