Illustrator fill glitch?
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- ********
Anyone else got this before?
When choosing a new fill colour via Appearance panel Illy leaves a very thin keyline of the previous colour – this is only on-screen, doesn't appear on run outs or Exports. There is no stroke set, so this is definitely a glitch.
Weirdly, it doesn't happen if I choose a new fill colour via the Swatches panel.
It becomes really obvious on light colours like yellow:
- animatedgif0
If it's type layers then it might be a fill inside the characters part. So you have 2 fills stacked on top of each other.
Doesn't look like the case in this instance though
- No I checked that, meh. Also, it happens on both Live text and Outlined********
- He's right.Gucci
- No I checked that, meh. Also, it happens on both Live text and Outlined
- Mr_Right0
I tested in my illy and getting same thing. Weird.
- detritus0
Print out a test swatch, if it isn't there, it isn't there.
I seem to recall running into a similar problem years ago.
- Mr_Right0
Also, not sure if it's related somehow, in my default swatch palette when I choose the 100% yellow swatch, the screen mix is 3.91c, 0m, 93.36y, 0k? It's supposed to be 100% yellow, correct? Yes, I'm working in CMYK.
- My CMYK Yellow is 100% Ymonospaced
- Thanks for checking that. Looks like I need to do some reading. I'll post what I find. Cheers!Mr_Right
- ok, so I trashed my prefs and it fixed my swatch pallette problem, but still getting problem OP referenced.Mr_Right
- monospaced0
Doesn't happen on mine no matter how I change the color, in the Swatches palette, the top bar thingy, the Appearance palette, nothing. Hmmm...
- Are you trying it on text? Mine only seems to be happening on text, not boxes/objects********
- yes, exactly like your examplemonospaced
- Are you trying it on text? Mine only seems to be happening on text, not boxes/objects
- ********0
CORRECTION:
This is now appearing on jpeg/PNG exports.
So it's not just an annoying visual glitch, it affects output. Wtf!It's almost like there are 2 fill layers, with the previous colour behind. But there definitely isn't.
- detritus0
can you post the file?
- Mr_Right0
Hey, not sure if this is the solution but it seemed to work for me. In the appearance pallette, in the menu in the upper right corner of the palette, uncheck the "new art has basic appearence" selection. See if that does it.
- Not for me********
- still not sure why mine fixed it... still looking into it.Mr_Right
- Not for me
- ********0
@detritus: don't have exact file here, but tried 3 different machines from scratch and it's happening on all of them (running CS6).
Try it:
1) Click type tool, type anything (leave on defaults: Myriad, black)
2) Go to Appearance panel, click Add New Fill button (defaults to black, no stroke)
3) Change to light colour (eg. yellow) via Appearance panel drop down (not Swatches). There's the thin black outline.This appears on all exports.
One more weird thing:
If you then outline that text, ungroup, and click any letter with Direct Selection it says the fill is black, when it's yellow! Weird.- doesn't happen on minemonospaced
- oh wait... it does now! it didn't beforemonospaced
- You on CS6? Everyone at work is getting it!********
- yes, CS6, but it didn't happen before!
monospaced - I infected you********
- detritus0
y'know what? I've never in my 14 years of using Illy clicked that 'add new fill' button. lol.
what advantage does that confer over just changing the fill, if I may ask?
if it's any consolation, it's doing it here too on CS5, but y'klnow what.. it makes a certain kind of sense to me, as it's adding this 'fill layer' additionally to your base object.
- "y'know what, y'know what, y'know what, y'know what..."detritus
- I agree, but I found it when I had to add multiple strokes and then change the fill via Appearance********
- monospaced0
Ok, I figured it out.
If you're adding a "New fill" in the Appearance palette, you ARE adding a color ON TOP of the other color, JUST LIKE a second object on top. You're essentially not "changing" the fill, you're "adding" it. To test this, just note that you can turn "off" the "New fill" by just clicking the "eye" icon to the left. Hence, it's like a layer, despite it being a single object.
Just go back to using the swatch palette. Done.
- < beat me to it.
Appearance is basically effects.
Taken me years to realise tho!********
- < beat me to it.
- ********0
(Sort of) SOLUTION:
Don't use Appearance panel for Live text, unless necessary. Go via Swatches.
If you need to use Appearance: make sure you select the text you want to change first, DON'T just click with Selection Tool (V) - this is where problems start.
The bug is essentially "adding" a the yellow fill as an effect, not an actual fill. You can see this by taking the buggy text and adding another effect like Warp > Arch. It only warps the yellow.
It then "reveals" the hidden black text that you didn't know was there.
Like so...
- ********0
Cheers lads.
Top QBN hustle.
- ESKEMA0
@ Its immensely useful for adding several strokes with different widths or shapes. just stack up strokes, without having to duplicate the object, or several fills with different opacities / blend modes.
- @detritus...ESKEMA
- Jesus, the strokes thing would be useful. God, I feel like such an amateur now!detritus
- Christ, how many redundant objects have I created over the years? tens of thousands?!detritus
- omg, this is greatmonospaced
- monospaced0
@ESKEMA I never used Appearance this way before and I think it might be useful for the future. The more you know!
- ESKEMA0
@mono
you can easily get stuff like this just by stacking up strokes...
- combining brushes to that = AwesomeESKEMA
- exactly, I think this will help IMMENSELY when I draw maps (double/triple strokes for highways)monospaced
- almost better than stroke styles/brushesmonospaced
- you can still save this as a style and use different brushes..ESKEMA
- nato0
Holy crap. This does open up some timesaving possibilities. Damn, been working in Illustrator for 13 years, and never knew about this. Of course, it probably hasn't quite existed for that many versions...
- nato0
Also, this is kind of a perfect example of the scientific method. Looking to solve one problem, and finding a solution for another problem. Good show, NT, good show.
- animatedgif0
Yeah as I said
- Illustrator UI is such a fucking messanimatedgif
- If Characters had a triangle or a fill style next to it then the problem would be obviousanimatedgif
- Gif skillz 3000********
- nice gif bro, could go straight up to the animated gif threadfeel
- ESKEMA0
^^In that method, instead of adding a fill, you should double click on characters so that it expands and shows the already applied fill.
It's stupid I know, but i never use the appearance box unless I need more stuff..- InDesign is the reliable uncle. Photoshop is the sexy mistress. Illy is the annoying vegan cousin with 35 allergies.********
- FUCKINGLOL @ pigmeffid
- InDesign is the reliable uncle. Photoshop is the sexy mistress. Illy is the annoying vegan cousin with 35 allergies.