More Than 9 in 10 Americans Continue to Believe in God
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- pig0
PS. Is it badass to be an atheist in America?
The vibe in Europe is a bit more whatever, we're over it.
We're the chilled dude watching our younger, better looking, more powerful brother constantly scrapping with his Arab mate over who is cooler.
Young nation vs. young religion = give it a couple of centuries and they'll mellow (if they don't blow each other up first)
- vaxorcist0
agnosticism seems the only logical choice, given the dearth of actual evidence... and it doesn't suffer the aetheism paradox above...
- that is NOT a paradoxmonospaced
- I can't explain it, thus a higher power did it. Intellectual cop out.aaux
- And there's no paradox above, just another random nonsense post from yuri.aaux
- reanimate0
The problem with agnosticism is that it's impossible to disprove a lot of things. Can't disprove Scientology or the universe on the back of a giant turtle theory. But no one makes a point of being agnostic about those.
- I like the Giant Turtle theory... almost as much as the Flying Spaghetti Monster theory...vaxorcist
- yurimon0
To answer above especially for aaux (special needs child :P).....
It is a paradox...... The paradox is that Atheism relies on the Concept of a God in order to exist. We are not arguing the existence of God here. Just even if we argued it from a conceptual understanding. The concept relies on arguing the antithesis of an idea that God exists. God concept in Religion and Atheism are extreme sides of the same spectrum. One cannot exist without the concept of the other.
It is science that argues that extreme oposites are the same within a confines of a spectrum. Only variation is the degree's in between the two opposites. Thus conclusion is my above statement of making fun of the irony. its is religion for those who claim they are not religious. again Irony.
Atheism is Statism, Its origins in modern times is political. To give the state absolute power. Thus Why it is propagated in communist countries. However there are Atheist type concepts in greek times. its origin revolves around Math. The question was in those times where is God? everywhere or some places or Nowhere?...
However it was these concepts of math that eventually brought about the concept of a zero (where god isn't). It came from a math based religion. It was a philosophy that wasn't so extreme as it would be sold today.I have to say that some greek philosophers were statist but I am not sure if statism and Atheism blended during those times.
Also may I ad that there is religion for the masses. which keeps people dumbed down into a power structure, reliant on a priesthood. I think there are merits if your able to think for yourself and able to cut through the dumb priests and stupid stereo types. Everybody of work is worth investigation from multiple viewpoints.
You are only able to see things in the capacity of your consciousness. if you raise your consciousness and awareness you will see more.
Think if your mental capacity as a 15 in monitor or a 56 inch monitor. If your intent is to be enlightened then you stand a chance. if your intent is to be dogmatic, or dismissive without investigation because it doesn't fit into your framework then you wont grow and be stuck in an ism prison my nism. werd.
- Proof that a religious thinking process can churn some extremely learned bullshit.pig
- PS. This is a graphic design forum. Back to the kerning threadspig
- Atheism is Statism. That's just bullshit right there. The rest of what you wrote is verbal ejaculation.aaux
- Quantum physics has its roots in Vedic texts. Your point is?yurimon
- Any proof of that vedic claim? Not just "this looks a lot like" kind of stuff please.aaux
- < what claptrapMrT
- Do not feed the troll!pig
- aaux0
"Atheism is Statism" - you need to really read up on your history if you think that atheism being involved in communism had anything to do other than to remove another potential source of political influence outside of the government. Atheism was used by statism, they're not one and same by any means.
And are you arguing that the concept of zero is religious in it's origins? Most of your writing rambles so much it's hard to get the actual points that you're trying to make.
- its modern origins. thats all you got? I want the state to have absolute power so you can have God getting in the way of my absolute power.yurimon
- wha?aaux
- of state power. You can have state state have God power like a king or Pope. same crapyurimon
- That still doesn't make any argument that atheism IS statism.aaux
- I said Modern Atheism has its roots in Statism. Communism. The State has Absolute power. and in order for the state to have absolute power the state doesn't recognize God or Religion.yurimon
- have absolute power the state doesn't recognize God or Religion.yurimon
- simple. right?yurimon
- No, it's wrong. You're saying that all atheists believe that the state should take god's place, correct?aaux
- damn thats dumbest thing I heard. I am referring to a historical fact. How, why you would think anything else. you read history?yurimon
- follow any history? I guess in order to make a point I have to start in elementary school level and build up till you understand.yurimon
- understandyurimon
- "Atheism is Statism" your exact words.aaux
- I corrected my typo in my explanation. jeezyurimon
- Should've said it was a typo then, professor. Cut 90% of the fluff you write and your ideas might get listened to.aaux
- uuuuuu0
I don't merely 'believe' in God I know what God actually is, I understand God. Most people don't, even believers.
- I'm not smug either I just have actually bothered to start a relationship. Blind faith was not necessary.uuuuuu
- Tell us all what it is, and what he wants then. Be interested to hear if anything you think actually disagrees with Him..?mikotondria3
- The universe is a concious thing. In fact your consciousness is a small part of this Universal Consciousness.uuuuuu
- You have to think of God as both singular AND plural. It is everything. I think the ancient Indians had the best idea about it.uuuuuu
- They have a very sophisticated understanding of what God and religion is.uuuuuu
- So a God that is both one and many ultimately has a lot of perspective and isn't contained to a subjective opinion.uuuuuu
- I don't think of God as a 'higher power' so much The Power of the universe itself. So it is ultimately capable of some amazing things.uuuuuu
- ... outstanding things.uuuuuu
- Here's where you guys think I'm nuts but it is totally truthful... there are PEOPLE who are God. Some are literally the Universe is the flesh.uuuuuu
- ...Universe in the flesh.uuuuuu
- Dude. I used to be in my 20s, and I thought I had all the answers too. I would have written that word for word back..mikotondria3
- ..in the late 90s, and frequently did. The reality to which one becomes aware however is not as clear cut. There is no simple answer about how and why...mikotondria3
- ..answer as to how the universe works, no matter what experiences one has internally. It's just you, talking to yourselfmikotondria3
- , and it has a very poetic aspect to it, but the truth is is that life and mind is chaos at the base of things. Blind chaos. Embracemikotondria3
- this and your need to expositive religion and so on, will ebb away. You will die, there is no cosmic justice.mikotondria3
- Conciousness arises from matter, it is not innate in it, and it only exists in minds. The universe it perceives is unlike itself, not itself writ large.mikotondria3
- you say all this with zero knowledge. why do you speak when you are so ignorant?uuuuuu
- itself. The mushroom is a great story-teller, enjoy the story, then grow from it. You are more independent than you dream.mikotondria3
- I didn't even bring up justice I just brought up consciousness. Your mind is of the universe just like the atoms in your physical body are.uuuuuu
- physical body is.uuuuuu
- Zero knowledge ?
Enquire, young uuuuuu - what is it you wish to know ?mikotondria3 - "I'm not smug either I just have actually bothered to start a relationship. Blind faith was not necessary.
– uuuuuu1/17
Tell us all what it is, and what he wants then. Be interested to hear if anything you think actually disagrees with Him..?
– mikotondria32/17
The universe is a concious thing. In fact your consciousness is a small part of this Universal Consciousness.
– uuuuuu3/17
You have to think of God as both singular AND plural. It is everything. I think the ancient Indians had the best idea about it.
– uuuuuu4/17
They have a very sophisticated understanding of what God and religion is.
– uuuuuu5/17
So a God that...aaux - I learned this from ancient wisdom. not a text book, i didn't make it up either.uuuuuu
- ancient wisdom = drugsaaux
- Sounds druggy.mikotondria3
- i_monk0
Agnostic atheism for the win. I don't know, so I don't believe.
- melq0
Look at me—I'm a young, liberal, atheist graphic designer screaming my beliefs to people that will likely share these very same beliefs!
I am one edgy, concrete motherfucker.
- nb0
86.3% of statistics are fabricated.
- moniker0
If it's more than 9 in 10, isn't that 10?
- He didn't say it was an integer.mikotondria3
- there are an infinite number of values between 9 and 10, moniker. fuck, this is frustratingmonospaced
- Forgot Americans can be less than whole.moniker
- vaxorcist0
- << That's great, that stuff, I can't get enough of it. Expensive but really nice.mikotondria3
- Ezekiel 23:20 is the yogurt.mikotondria3