Creationist designers?
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- yurimon0
All designers are creationists in practice at least. Other wise you would for chance to do your project for you?. thats like 1 in billion odds evolution or chaos theory would finish your project. however there is an 100% chance you would get fired!
So be a creationist and finish your damn project.- er wait for chance i mean.yurimon
- one in a billion is nothing for nothing, like is probably more like 1 in 100 billion chance against, but it only needs one.mikotondria3
- *1 in a billion is nothing for *nature, sorry...mikotondria3
- All you need is one in infinity...detritus
- Lets do a test, Pen and paper near each other and tell me when chance makes a Picasso. hola back yoyurimon
- your words are the words of a person who thinks so highly of himself, that he cannot think of a possibility that something otherCanHasQBN
- other than a "divine great being" creating him.CanHasQBN
- Who let the creationists get away with representing evolution as just being based on chance? (hint: it isn't)ribit
- detritus0
Anyone who takes Genesis literally is a moron.
I sincerely doubt whoever wrote it meant it literally either.
- gramme0
CanHasQBN: If you had actually read what I wrote, you would see that I have not, in fact, bent the Bible's words to suit my own belief. Rather, because of my respect for and deep belief in the Bible as God's word, I want very much to understand the full meaning and nuance of the words as intended in the original language.
My point is that the ancient Hebrew word for "day" in that context can and did mean different things in different contexts. Not the context of what I personally want to believe, but the context the original author intended.
If that's not crystalline, I'm a baboon.
- omg0
I am God
- CanHasQBN0
gramme... that's exactly my point. This is how weightless and baseless the Bible is. Nobody has a single clue as to how anything in it is truly intended to read, nor is anyone able to verify a single thing in it. Yet you still latch onto it for dear life as if it's contents are wholly true and accurate. It's really an odd phenomenon. You read something, you have no clue what it's true intention means, and then you make the decision that it's true. Where's the logic here?? What in your mind allows you to ignore the countless holes in the Bible so easily?
Whether it's literally 7 days or 7 trillion days makes no difference. The difference is that you have zero evidence either way. When everything in your evidence cabinet is debatable, you end up with a completely groundless position.
What about talking snakes, does that story have an alternate intention as well? By snake, did the author really mean "some talking guy"? If not, do you really believe in talking snakes? Really amazing how one can blur the lines between fable and reality so easily and believe this fairytale BS. As if in ancient times, magic used to just happen all the time and was a normal part of life... but now it doesn't occur anymore for some reason... you know, because god is pissed at us... or some other vague reason.
How can you demand such stringent standards and evidence from science, yet all of your evidence for creationism is so blatantly non-existent and fallible? Science has never claimed to have finished the puzzle. Meanwhile, you claim to have finished the puzzle, but still have the pieces scattered all over the place.
- Christianity not only doesn't solve the puzzle, it doesn't know what the pieces are.kota
- surely the point of, resultant success of the bible is due to the fact it can be interpreted any way you likeBaskerviIle
- people take what they want from it, and that's fine. As long as they don't try and push their ideas etc onto other peopleBaskerviIle
- mikotondria30
"...can and did mean different things in different contexts".
And only by using non-scriptural, modern, real-world common-sense can you decide what that context is. The context isn't given in the original documents - a word that has several meanings was used; only now do we know, empirically, that the world is older and took longer to than the 7 days to create, so only now do we look back at that ambiguous word and choose our meaning from it. For millenia the ambiguity of the word was known, but interpreted according to the knowledge of the day. ie none, and was interpreted literally.
This is a fragment of the argument that states there is nothing that once had a scientific explanation that now has a better religious explanation, but there are an ever increasing number of things that once had a religious explanation that now have a scientific explanation.
To drill down with this more finely into the creation myth: as often stated by apologists, the order of the creation was vaguely correct in that day and night preceded the separation of the land and waters, and the plants and the animals, and finally the man, however with only a small amount of scientific knowledge we can see that once the 'firmament' is created, natural, demonstrable, irrefutable laws allow for the natural development of waters, and land, and life, and the evolution of it into ever more complex forms. That is, science has peeled back the creation myth, as you say, to only the ex-nihilo moment, at which point it disappears from our ability to correctly conceptualize the question in anything other than the terse language of math. Arguing for the case against an unknown unknowable by citing that a modern contexutual translation of a Hebrew word is pretty flimsy ground, mate; whatever you philosophically believe about how the world works and was formed, you have no footing by pointing to scriptural analysis. Whether you say you believe it IS the word of your god, it's not true as it's written, so what truth is it that you claim you see ?
- kota0
just read the selfish gene
- Then Read "Evolution: The Greatest Show On Earth", by the same author. Should be compulsory for all humanz.mikotondria3
- Salarrue0
- Excellent site.
Rubbish content, but love the design.mikotondria3 - Fucking hot site. Where do I convert?CanHasQBN
- Gramme this yours?CanHasQBN
- Excellent site.
- CanHasQBN0
Genesis, Chapter 1:
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."Psht... I'm totally convinced. It says so right there in Genesis Chapter 1.
- qoob0
- kota0
it also bears mentioning that Christianity is jsut a recent and virulent strain of the same creation mythology and has both analogs and its roots in many other places, time and cultures. all were equally wrong.
- kota0
hey christians do you believe in memes?
- omg0
the true creationist designers are the Jews. They are the chosen ones, and the ones whom God chose to speak to, to inherit the Earth.
- Oh..right, yeh.
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- Oh..right, yeh.
- cannonball19780
Feynman explained it best when he said that he wasn't afraid of not knowing. That it was fine to let things be unknown until they are properly known, rather than grasping to fill in the blanks.
- qoob0
^ Exactly. No need to invent myths or fairy tales. We don't understand how the universe works today.
The idea that people 2,000 years understood it all - when they didn't even know the Earth rotated around the Sun - is hilarious.
- Fuck, we only stopped burning witches like 100 yrs ago. You think some guys 2000 yrs ago were thinking straight?CanHasQBN
- GeorgesII0
wow wow wow, slow down there brah.
that is pretty crazy,
are you saying the earth isn't 6000 years old, and isn't FLAT!!
and those primitive people who built structures that are still standing thousands of years after their construction were dumber than us.You can't be saying that the newly discovered structures built 12000 years ago, which are currently rewriting our human cave man story have been planted there by mice.
you ain't saying that a corporation that ruled above us all for 2000 years would lie to us to keep us in the dark, age..
Believe me a single EMP and we're back to the stone age.
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’Shape of Earth is like an Oblate Spheroid’.
Rig VedaXXX. IV. V‘Earth is flattened at the poles’.
Markandeya Purana 54.12”There are suns in all directions, the night sky being full of them. And there are planets in all directions around them.
(Rig Veda)“The Sun is the center of a small system which includes 9 planets including Earth. The Sun holds more than 98% mass of this small system in this giant universe which contains millions of suns".
Rig Veda“The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins.”
Rig Veda 10.149.1//back to troll mode
- You'd need at least one EMP per hemisphere, preferably 6 or so.detritus
- will a big enough solar flare do?GeorgesII
- Good Rig Veda quotings, well done.mikotondria3
- fadein110
Just come back to my thread and happy to see it achieved desired effect.