art director vs. graphic designer
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- scarabin0
in film advertising it's
intern > junior designer > designer > art director > senior art director > creative director
- MarleyMarl0
The difference between AD/CD and a Graphic Designer:
AD/CD: Actually works hard all day. Builds strong relationships with upper management and clients. Focuses on making the work in the agency better and acts as a buffer between the shit hitting the fan and the Graphic Designer. Replies to a billion emails.
Graphic Designer: Wastes their day away on sites like QBN, FFFOUND, Dribbble, etc, thinking it will actually make them a better creative. Bitches and moans about how the AD/CD make all the cash and call all the shots. Cries over the fact that they had to change that key line from 0.5pt to 0.75pt.
- Knuckleberry0
Here is the structure where I work (this is where it gets fucked because my boss has never worked for anyone):
Design Admin > Junior Designer > Designer > Sr Designer > Design Director > Creative Director... seems fine... but, I am a designer and another guy is a senior designer and we both tell the design director and creative director what to do. We manage all the jobs, talk with the client, email everything... this place is weird.- << Not wired at all - very similar here where I work, and it works great.RIZ
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- Good to know...Knuckleberry
- RIZ0
I work for a large design / branding studio. We have 1 Creative Director, 2 Design Directors and 7-8 designers.
Our Design Directors are the closest things we would have to an Art Director - and they are freaking incredible graphic designers, who now manage designers under them. There is certainly no room here for a traditional 'Art Director' - someone who scribbles out ideas and expects designers to act like mac-ops and visualise them.
Design Directors should be able to jump on the tools and design a better identity, poster, page layout then the designers under them - but I very much doubt that would be the case with most Art Directors.
I don't really think the term Art Director applies to the design world nearly as much as it applies to the Advertising world. Designers are designers - with their own ideas, Art Directors simply direct Mac-ops.
- DaveO0
So what we learn from this thread is that all workplaces are different, and everyone's terminology is different, and that it doesn't really matter. End of thread.
- gramme0
Ah hell. Haven't we already thoroughly canvased this topic in the past?
- cannonball19780
One uses a mac and one uses a PC obv.
- MrT0
In my experience the more convoluted and apparently senior the job title is, the more of a simpering cock-lord the individual is.