WEB DESIGN BECAME
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- kingsteven0
home + who we are + what we do + about us + contact = profit
- hahah ( + admin )mikotondria3
- = the reason why i'm so poorkingsteven
- EPtype0
I think you just are not very good at what you do... or your clients suck.
- aaux0
Sounds like a bunch of whiny designers that wish they were artists.
- monNom0
webdesign became more mature. The slow realization and acceptance that content really is the king, and that a new format, for the sake of a new format, will potentially be confusing for users who only want the content, and could care less for the packaging.
There's room for 'webdesign' where the format IS the content... but at that point you've moved into digital art, not design. And from that point the rules of usability/semantic code/w3c compliance/blah blah blah... those concepts no longer apply unless to further the artist's message.
- Now apply this to vehicle design. Or packaging. It's always AN art + content = message, narrative, identity.mikotondria3
- mikotondria30
WEB DESIGN BECAME...
..Less about creating and communicating an experience and more of a list of things clients wanted the website to 'do'.
..About how to slightly differently decorate the same design of web-page which coalesced around a news/blog stream of varying complexities.
..Stagnant once broadband enabled the standardization of multimedia bandwidth delivery and there stopped being a progression of complexity of what you could stuff down a user's pipe. From simple text-only, to more images, to small flash files, to large flash files, to massive images and small video to unlimited video - there it stopped. That train reached the end of the line.
...tbc
- utopian0
Wordpress, Facebook, Twitter, Social Media, Blogs, DIY Website Design, etc... killed web design.
R.I.P. Design
- tank020
I'm guessing you are talking about media rich sites like HiRes & Big spaceship used to make?
- chrisRG0
well, I just posted about the new gizmodo.com, it's a clear example of what's going on.
- chrisRG0
it's really been odd times, i've been thinking about that for a while, everything is boring.
anyways, I guess I am kinda lucky, cos I'm doing some nice projects lately, most of them still Flash tho.
- obsolete0
I think that customers don't want to take chances anymore...
I guess it is back to websites like praystation where you would show experiments to customers to make them exited,,,
- randommail0
And to add, I loved the days of Flash actually. Not because of everything it accomplished in a few years, but where it could have continued going.
Websites, serving as communication tools, but also a medium where web designers could constantly created something new, much like print designers. This was almost expected from clients.
- randommail0
I wholeheartedly agree with clearThoughts.
Web and mobile are first and foremost utilitarian. And usually that's where our patrons stop.
I believe great design is about reaching for the sublime. And sometimes utility doesn't have to be there. It can simply be about expression and connecting with the viewer. Yes, even for commercial art.
This is why I try to stay medium-agnostic.
- d_rek0
While you're bitching about the state of the industry the rest of us are makin' bank.
- aes0
clearThoughts,
Don't present 10 ideas, ever.
Present one – the one you think works best.- And then you have 9 more to pass off to other clients that are less picky. Win.CygnusZero4
- which makes you a hack not concerned with clients needsalbums
- Yes, not what I was getting at.aes
- animatedgif0
Just make them a Facebook page, get it signed off then kill yourself
- albums0
You've posted art in a conversation I thought was about usability. Design I believe is the transfer of information without words. My personal use of color is much greater than my clients desires of me. you will notice most all large scale entities using a very calculated color palette while some are breaking out from it.(AOL & The city of Melbourne & Melbourne Museum come to mind ) There is a need to be accessible & recognizable in this slew of option if you want a brand to penetrate, saturate & root. The images you have provided are not design to communicate information, only artistic expression.
Don't get me wrong I like design/art when it's useful like Beatsurfing. interactive with purpose.
- clearThoughts0
@albums I think you clearly have a different sensibility than what I have.
I don't see visual design as trendy fonts + trendy colours + trendy photos but rather as a medium that can be used to transmit emotions.
When I look at Mobile Apps I can see people actually using more sophisticated layouts, more colour and much more advanced interaction design.
- maikel0
Think of websites as you would of furniture or even clothes.
Most business know that 'Ikea' quality is enough for them, so unless you are amazon (where you expect to make money THROUGH your website) you will not invest that much.
A few years ago all editorial designers had to learn the new 'where the money is' and started doing websites. Now you got roughly the same thing about apps and mobility-centred design.
In a couple of years' time I would be surprised if people use desktop computers at all, so I guess is time to start thinking about the fields that are showing some future.
mobility didn't killed internet stars. they are just the new mobile media stars, and the ones who aren't (and still think they can be starts) are probably obsolete.
- desktop isn't going to die. Mobile isn't gear toward productivity... and a lot of internet usage is at work.monNom