Point & Shoot Camera Suggestion
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- mikoto
Was leaning toward the Canon Powershot S100.
any suggestions?
- ESKEMA0
iPhone 4s
- monospaced0
I think the Canon's fun, but I prefer the Lumix LX-5.
- mikoto0
monospaced: what are your reasons for that?
- feels less like a toy, TONS of adapters, better sensor, better lens (in my opinion)monospaced
- The images are better (RAW), in my opinion. The Leica glass is really nice. The Canon is too slick, literally slippery, feels like a toy.monospaced
- a toy. Tiny buttons are really, really annoying. They're really similar cameras, but I just prefer the Lumix. I bought both to try.monospaced
- true it does look nicer, however kind of defeats the purpose of getting a point and shoot with all those accessories.mikoto
- I just mean it has options, just in case. It's a great point-and-shoot by itself.monospaced
- The Lumix can be expanded upon using the hot shoe too. Can't do that with the Canon.monospaced
- doesnotexist0
i have the s95 and i like it
- mikoto0
well now i'm undecided. i was thinking of waiting til next iphone drops. but i feel like i need a point and shoot besides it.
- mikoto0
here was one of the reasons i was looking into the s100
- mikoto0
was also looking into the Casio Exilim ZR200
- duckseason0
Ricoh GRD 4
(or even the 3)
- ideaist0
Currently looking at the Lumix GX-1:
I guess it's more than point & shoot, but if you're considering getting an updated iPhone, why not invest in a slightly more capable camera? This way you'll have something with you all the time (iPhone) as well as a functional professional camera to shoot a variety of stuff...
; )
- My girl has the 4GS (pretty much an instagram-only device) and i'll be getting a capable camera for business & pleasure...ideaist
- pleasure...ideaist
- looks great but with those options and accessories, i'd much rather carry a dslr aroundmikoto
- Different strokes for different folks; I could never lug a SLR around; this Lumix seems to be the perfect balance...ideaist
- ok_not_ok0
- Damned German efficiency...ideaist
- I can vouch for this camera. I love it.monkeyshine
- made in portugalebertzjaw
- zarkonite0
What are you going to be shooting? vacation pictures?
- Hombre_Lobo0
Fun thread, ill reply later.
But fyi im getting a s100 next week!- << listen to this dude, he know's his camera shizzlegoldieboy
- Hombre_Lobo0
Finally got round to replying!
Ive been going through the same decision recently.
Options for high end P&S:
Nikon p300 (no RAW, but 24mm 1.8 lens)
Canon s100
Lumix LX5
Olympus XZ-1
Fuji X10For me in terms of pocketability the X10, LX-5 and XZ-1 dont tick the box of fitting in a jeans pocket comfortably. They are just a bit too chunky, so in my eyes dont quite class as pocketable. The x10 being the largest. They are great cameras, but nowhere near as compact as the p300 and s100 (and s95).
This is because they have much brighter lenses at full zoom (so they have to be bigger), seen here -
The s100 goes from f2 @ 24mm, to f5.9 @ 120mm.
Major difference at full zoom in terms of how much light they get in. This is often overlooked.Quote from a review -
"To be fair, the S100 is zooming further, but zoom it back a bit to 100mm and the aperture only opens a fraction to f5.6, while at 85mm, it only manages f5.0. For the record, the S100's maximum aperture at various focal lengths is: f2.0 at 24mm, f2.2 at 28mm, f2.8 at 35mm, f4 at 50mm, f5 at 85mm, f5.6 at 100mm and finally f5.9 at 120mm. "The LX5 is great, 3.3 at full zoom is v nice, and it has an awesome 1cm macro focus distance.
But for stills the s100 seems to better it in all respects, low light included (but consider the aperture, when zooming the lx5 might be better).But remember this is when pixel peeping. Im sure if you spent a day with both you wouldnt see any major difference in the image quality between them both as they are both very good.
The XZ-1 is awesome too. Brightest of the bunch and resolves more detail than any other compact at lower iso, only slightly beating the s100, but lacks the 24mm wide angle.
Dont forget the LX5 & XZ-1 has a lens cap, which some people find very annoying.
The s100 also has better video than the others. The xz-1 has notoriously bad video btw.
The p300 is awesome, crazy good value if you dont care for RAW. 24mm lens @ 1.8, great video too, just a fraction worse than the s100, BUT it can do 120fps 1280x720p! It also has a better screen than all the others @ 900k resolution, compared to 400k of the rest.
So for me, I've decided on the s100 becuase its pocketable and awesome and has RAW. The s100 also has an inbuilt 3 stop ND filter, which can be used in video to keep the shutter speeds down where they should be (this cam doesnt have manual video control).
I'd be happy with an LX5 or XZ-1, but i want a pocketable RAW 24mm cam. so s100 it is! :)
- LX5 is 1.8 @ 24mm, BTWmonospaced
- You are wrong.Hombre_Lobo
- its f2.0-3.3.
http://www.panasonic…Hombre_Lobo
- Hombre_Lobo0
@monospaced -
"The LX5 has a better sensor"
The s100 has a fraction more detail in RAW and a lot more detail in jpeg. The s100 has better color depth, dynamic range and is better at high iso (aperture-zoom range differences aside).
Sensor stats -
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php…of course scientific tests often mean little. So here is a example of resolving fine detail -
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/…To me the LX5 doesnt look great along side the s100.
"The canon feels slippery"
I guess you havent held the s100, you must be thinking of the s95. The s100 has a sandpaper like finish, its very grippy.- detail here too -
http://www.dpreview.…Hombre_Lobo - word, and yes, the LX5 jpeg processing leaves a little to be desired. RAW is gorgeous thoughmonospaced
- yeh jpegs are good, not great, but RAW is ace. Great cam of sho. 3.3 @ 90mm is sweet,Hombre_Lobo
- detail here too -
- mikoto0
thanks Hombre_Lobo!
i definitely might have to get the s100. definitely post some shots you take when you get it!
- ********0
Don't buy a Sony Cyber Shoot, there mazing shit.
- Hombre_Lobo0
^haha.
Sadly I've found this to be true. Its like white balance lottery with even their best compacts.
The nex range are great, and the hx9v does incredible video for a compact (out resolving the canon dslr's), but for stills, sony compacts I steer clear of.
- seeessess0
Canon 7D ;o)